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  1. @fellfell

    Interesting comments to say the least...not sure where they come from, or what they are based on, but interesting for sure...

    You have not commented very much on the forum, so I am not sure why you have such a opinionated view of this particular topic...and why you chose this particular thread to post your views...

    If I read your comments correctly, you say 3 things,

    1. our watches are junk,

    2. our watches dont' have any genuine ETA movement in them, and

    3. I am getting paid off by the Chinese to post and say what I say ...(I hope that last one is true, and that my bank will cash a chinese cheque...)

    Anyone can buy 1 ETA movement, or 100 of them, or 1000 of them... send me a cheque for $10,000 and I will get you whatever type of ETA movements you want... Your suggesting that the ETA movements are not actually ETA ones, but Chinese copies... Well I am here to let you know that those that I see that are marked as ETA, are indeed ETA movements... there are copies of various movements in our watches, that is nothing new. Are the copie movements junk?? NO, not at all, for the most part they are really good quality.

    I'll put out an open invitation to anyone on this forum to come and sit at my workbench, and see for themselves a genuine ETA and a copy...after you handle as many watches as I do, you can see a Genuine ETA as soon as you look at it...

    Critisizme and accusations without any supporting info is simply worthless...it's your opinion, nothing else.

    I am not sure why your so [censored] off, if you dont' like the watches that are being sold here, then dont' buy them...you have a choice...

    I have posted dozens of posts with supporting information and pictures (some of it not positive) on various movements, you can do the same. Anyone can say whatever, lets see you back up your accustations and statements with some proof....

    RG

    Dear sir ETA makes part of a consortium commanded from Carter who satisfied private eyes in order to discover the channels of arrival of the reps in the USA.

    ETA enters nothing with the sinoReps. Not sells the movements to the Chinese.

    Ok This is in the most the important Italian reviews of orologeria as “L'orologio" "Orologi" "OM orologi & Market” ecc..

    On these reviews writes authoritative experts , comprised the Patron of Antiquorum Osvaldo Patrizzi. The RWG friends are free to believe to they or to The Zigmeisterzumba and his workbench.

    For the rep quality, I post my personal valutation. It is possible or is obligatory to always adore the Chinese?

    I value because I have acquired someone, and my judgment is that fake watches are poor poor watches, real value $ 30 or 40.

    Do you love it? Everyone has its ideas. Continuous you also to living in means to make yourself thinking that they are small jewels, good day

  2. It's my undrstanding all "Swiss ETA" movements are manufatured in China and "finished" by the Swiss so they can legally be called "Swiss Made".

    I don't quite get the ire and passion in your posts. Exactly what is your point, that these replica watches are in reality very poor quality mechanical watches? Are you trained in watchmaking and repair? Rob has done some remarkable reviews in the Repair and upgrade forums that both praise and criticize the mechanical reliability of the movements in our watches. These reviews demonstrate his skill and knowlege and are free of bias. When he tells me that an Asian 7750 with service can be just as reliable as an ETA version in a $2500 genuine, I know that opinion is based on tearing the Chinese movement down to the bare bones.

    Dear sir all the opinions are respectables. I respect your opinion, but I think that chinese reps on the box are poor poor watches, and the entusiast pay it more more of the real value because they have fake marks (Rolex Panerai ecc...)

    I think that if you buy a rep for you, for your hobby (modding) you are good, but if you buy bad chinese fake because Rolex, Cartier ecc.. are Status Symbol and you desire but have not the money for a GEN, you are stupid.

    Please, I write "you" but "you" are not you = crystalcranium. You is discorsive, as "a person that buy ecc...." I write in friendly whit all members, also whit members that have different ideas for me.

    But the people that buy replicas for to have a fake status symbol are millions in the world, the men that have moddin hobby are 10, 100, 200...... and they are all here, in these forums.

    Bye

  3. @fellfell I see what you are a saying but considering what $200-500 gets me at my local stores reps don't seem too overpriced...

    For an automatic with decent quality and nice finish at all (even one that doesn't say a famous name) it is not cheap at a store. Of course some price goes to shipping and everyone in the process must make money, so some profits...

    So yes there is some markup and profit like any other business (in this business quite big markup but it's a relatively small market and somewhat dangerous). I agree that at very low prices the crappy watches may indeed be the best value for the $ becuase you still get a functioning watch for very few $$$ but if that was the desire we would go to our local stores and buy Timex waches for $10.

    I think part of the value you pay for in reps is indeed having the brand name, as silly as that may be in some lights.

    Ok, your is to raisonable point of view.

    But I do not understand the enthusiasm of these “experts” for watches that are really poor poor watches.

    The "experts" !!!

    An example of quality of "replica experts". They believe that the ETA of the Reps is a GEN swiss Eta.

    But Swiss Eta does not sell movements to the Chinese, these are all Chinese copies of Eta. Several Trusty, Eddie, Precious ecc.. are only large false. They only have interest to theirs business. No the rights of the consumer, only the business. They trick the stupis whom they believe to buy a small jewel (the "perfect" sub, the "ultimative" Yachtmaster....) and instead they buy an abort value $ 30/40.

    But the forum experts is not never shrewed? Or they are payed to the Chinese?

    Bye

  4. Random thoughts about where we have been, and where were going with replica’s…

    If we have not reached the pinnacle of quality of replica’s......

    Dear friend sorry for my imperfect english, is a difficult to me to explain and for you to understand.

    I do not know if I have understood well that you have intentional to say but, if I have understood well, are not in agreement.

    I have followed for little the Reps world , have acquired something between the best ones (also a MBW) and think that your enthusiasm is not right.

    The Best Reps are, in my experience, watches for little moneies, badl made and crude.

    They are absolutely not similar to the GEN.

    I do not want “the perfect rep” , not, but at least one rep decent, acceptable.

    If rep costs $ 300 I want that it has the quality of a normal watch $ 300.

    Instead my opinion is that the reps (the best reps that I have buyed, as MBW 1665, the last daytona Val second at six, the sub solid gold/triple wrapped etc.) have a real value of little dollars, the rest is the gain of the Chinese.

    The Chinese sells reps always new and is real that the last one is better than that old one, but old and new are always poor poor miserable thinks .

    Do you see reps? Have you eyes? Is it possible that a man that have eyes do not see that reps are misery? For having rep NOT PERFECT BUT DECENT is necessary to acquire and to replace many parts with original parts and the cost is not worth the game.

    I begin to go away from the world of the reps..... An answer, please to a capital question: the watches more loved from the friends of the reps are the Sub and the Panerai, ( I think it from the great number of post dedicates to forum members to purchase and modification of Sub and Panerai).

    In Italy a good good Sub used, if you buy it into a hig quality watch jewelry whit warranty, have a price of euro 3000. Panerai used costs euro 2000/2500. (SEE IT ------> www.eora.it )

    If you have not the money, is possible to buy it whit rateal payment (rateal payment = for euro 3000 you pay euro 100 for 36 months, or euro 75 for 48 months etc....).

    My question is: if you love and love and love the Sub (or the Panerai), why not purchases it GEN ?

  5. The Timeman dials have a real bad misalignement of the Rolex 'L' under the coronet. Timezoneand Doubleredseadweller.com warn about this to look for in fakes. Kind of ironic to replace the dial with a expensive dial that actually screams fake/ the so called expert redial. Save your money. A real one is hard and expensive to come by and the added value minimal IMHO. Better to shape CG's, caseback and replace the crystal and a gen insert (which is also hard to come by).

    Also I task that the dial of MBW is worth these dial, and is stupid acquire these.

    My problem is the bezel.

    In Italy is very difficult (impossible) to buy an original bezel Rolex into Rolex concessionary.

    I must try that one in Internet.

    In my search I have found AFTERMARKET bezel in Ebay for $ 30/40 (as Ofrei) or more, but me seems equal to that one of the MBW

    Who knows a site who sells GEN bezels?

    Good day

  6. fellfell-

    Parts compatibility is all dependant on the watch that you have, or are working on. Some accept parts better than others, however, modern Subs and SD's will require much more modification of parts in order to fit than, say an MBW vintage Sub or SD.

    For replica 16610's, things like genuine bezel inserts require the bottom surface of the insert to be shaved down so that it will fit flush/slightly recessed in the bezel; replica bezels are too shallow to accept the inserts unmodified (and replica inserts are very thin). Installing crown tubes can be a bit more varied- On some, the tubes simply thread right in- On some, the case needs to be re-tapped, and the hole counter sunk to fit the base of the tube, and on others, the hole for the tube needs to be completely drilled out, counter sunk and tapped as the original hole was too small. Dials are also dependant on the specific watch you have, as some cases may have the inner diameter too small for the dial (requiring the dial to be trimmed), and the date window might not line up correctly with the datewheel overlay (which is easily corrected with the right date overlay). Of course, as Jetsons mentioned, the dial feet will have to be trimmed as the ETA caries different positions for the posts.

    So... It all depends on the watch you have, and the parts that you want to install. For most parts, it's not difficult to fit these parts, but it will require some work to get them to fit right.

    Best of luck...

    R

    OK. Very interesting Very complicated

    We make 3 examples :

    1. GEN dial in daydate/datejust 36 mm China/TW.I think that IT is not problems.

    2. GEN dial in Sub/GMT I think that IT is not problems

    3. Bezel in (actual) sub or GMT china/TW. If you want to insert only the “bezel insert” there are problems of measure and thickness. Possible Is that the GEN bezel insert goes well, it is possible that not. It must try

    But is possible to acquire the complete bezel, that it comprises bezel insert + indented metal ring and ring.

    In this case it is replaced all, and probably the problem is eliminated.

    Is it correct?

    Bye bye

  7. Dear friends

    All know that is possible to put original parts Rolex in a MBW.

    UBI has taught to me that is impossible to put a original dial in to Daytona 7750 replica because is different the position of the hands of subdials.

    My answer now is: are Rolex replicas of the sellers of RWG compatible with originals parts .

    An example: all RWG sellers, Trusty, Precious, Perfect, King, Eddie etc. have replicas of actual submariner- date (I have the impression that all sell the same watch ......)

    Is possible to put in these replicas an original genuine GEN dial and bezel?

    Or the measures of replica are imperfect and different to original Rolex Sub?

    Thanks to friends that answers to me.

  8. In my opinion, they're okay, but not great. They're a little pricey for what they are, they require some work to get them to fit properly, and in the end, they still don't look right.

    Better to spend a little more on a genuine insert, and do it right.

    Sorry, sir, but where is possible in internet (exluse ebay very dangerous because to great number of sellers they say “original” but is possible not to verify) to buy a genuine Rolex bezel insert ?

    Thanks

  9. What type of insert are you looking for? Submariner? Sea-Dweller? Vintage or modern?

    For vintage, that's easy, as you really only have one size amongst all the models- 5512, 5513, 5514, 1680, 1665, etc. So, for those, there is only one insert reference. Genuine inserts look like this:

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    125185-20648.jpg

    Now... Once you get into the Neo-Modern transitionals, everything starts to change. These models (16800 and 16660) were the first Subs and SD's with sapphire crystals and new one way ratcheting bezels. The bezel insert between the Sub and SD are different in size, as the SD has a crystal that's roughly 1mm in size smaller. However, the luminescent pearl went from an acrylic setting to a 'glass' pearl with a metal (WG) surround/setting.

    Once we get into the modern style Subs and SD's, there are differences yet again- The 16610 inserts remain the same as the 16800's, the 16600's are the same as well; the 14060's, which superceded the 5513's in the late 80's were now part of the new sapphire/uni-directional ratcheting bezel club, and had a bezel insert that is the same in appearance as the Sub Date and SD. However... The 5513's insert is also of different size, and is not interchangable on it's other two counterparts.

    BTW... A genuine 16610 insert looks like this:

    125185-20649.jpg

    125185-20650.jpg

    A comparison between the two...

    125185-20651.jpg

    Now... With regards to where to find genuine inserts- The vintage inserts are becoming more and more difficult to source, as NOS supplies are drying up and RSC's are tightening up parts control from the 3rd party vendors and watchmakers. The modern ones can be found on the open market, though it takes some looking around sometimes. Every now and then I'll take a few in, along with some other parts. Just kind of depends on what's available at the time (though I haven't made any parts purchases in quite a while).

    Keep on eye on the usual sources. As long as you know what to look for, you can find some good deals out there!

    Dear friend

    I am waiting for (from much time) the arrival of a Seadwellwe double red. From the photo it seems that the pearl is the critic point .

    But I have found too many bezels in turn, he is not understood which is good and which not.

    A Gen bezel of recent age he could be on it?

    I have seen the official photos of the Sea in the guide book of Osvaldo Patrizzi (ref. 1665 Year 1979) and the bezel is very similar to actual.

    The problem is also the measure.

    When I have the Sea wanted I will also to replace the dial. Other modifications? I would not know which to make.

    Since I have decided of collecting only (+/-)vintage, the problem of bezel for me seems important.

    I have also a Sub TT in the bottom of my drawer that I perhaps would want to improve with a bezel new

    The bezel in your photo have you buyed to official dealer or other?

    Thanks, good day

  10. One of the principal improvement of a Rolex replica is the sostitution of bezel whit a bezel Gen or hig quality.

    I have seen on ebay many sellers of bezel (and dials) but I do not succeed to understand if they are GEN or not.

    For me also a aftermarket goes well , but if quality is identical to what already it has in the replica-watch, it is a useless and stupid job.

    Know you to indicate me Internet-site sellers optimal quality or original (new or used) parts? Or the ebay-stores more reliable? I have tried to try to bezel for vintage sub, but I have not understood "na mazza" (italian for "nothing"

    Unfortunately In Italy official dealers not sell these parts (bezel. dial. bracialet, buckle ecc..) but they directly mount them on your GEN Rolex (if you have)

    I understand that is a difficult question, but I hope in the good councils.

    Good day friends

    PS but the site http://www.buyawatch.com/kits.htm is dead? I do not succeed to approach Thanks

  11. ff-

    Okay, to properly open the watch, you'll need a caseback wrench specifically for Rolex watches like this one:

    eBay auction 4944133917.

    To remove the movement, you'll need to remove the crown and stem; the movement should come free once the stem is released (there is no need to remove the pushers).

    However, I must caution that if this is your first time going inside a watch, to be very careful. You may want to practice on a lesser priced watch prior to working on this one. If you don't feel comfortable with working on the watch, you should contact one of the forum regulars who will work on your watch to perform the modifications.

    Best of luck...

    R

    Thanks. you always answer to the questions and are much kind one. I have not understood one what: who is forum regulars ?? In realty is my first time going inside a watch and if possible, is preferible that another to perform the modifications (modifications that I desire = to fix and to immobilize the pointer in 6 subdial ). Thanks good day

  12. I am not still in a position to auto-constructing my loved Daytona vintage (whit to Valjoux 72 - 72b) and for hour I would want to modify the Lemania movement (that is in some Daytona Vintage that I will improve)

    I have two problems, I am not expert in modifications and uppgrading of replicas and for me is necessary your expert guide.

    FIRST which is the tool in order to open the case of an rolex-replica?

    Can you indicate to me sites or ebay sellers that sell it?

    SECOND after to have open the watch, in order to remove the movement is necessary to remove the crown and the crono buttons. I believe that there are 3 lives to unscrew in order to remove they.

    Which are the three lives? Or is the method an other?

    Attack here the photo of a Lemania movement in one replic of Eddie. Thanks

    http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e186/300...mgAnch=imgAnch8

  13. Nice looking couple. :)

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    This is my old trusty TW classic which has been terrific. The thick case, deep set dial, thick crystal, correct date mag plus correct cyclops placement are its strongest suit.

    121165-21571.jpg

    The MBW 1665 as can be seen in the photos below, has a massive case even compared to the not so wimpy TW. Add the T-39 Superdome to the package and it is a very distinctive & beautiful piece.

    121165-21572.jpg

    T-39 compared to the flat top of the TW. Well, it's not really much of a comparison. :)

    121165-21573.jpg

    A tasty sandwich. :lol:

    121165-21574.jpg

    Hope you enjoy.

    Jet

    Sir, I beg your perdon for my ignorance but I not undestand "trusty TW "

    Is it a replica buyed from Trustytime"? Is other ? Thanks

  14. Hi fellfell. For the Daytonas... I have found that the only way to get a good one is to build it from parts. It is very expensive, yes... But the result is more than worth the effort, and for the 6263 and 16520, it is very possible to find parts, as they are not all proprietary Rolex.

    For the 16520 El Primero- You need a good case. In my project, I was lucky enough to find a genuine case, which fits the movement perfect. I am not sure if there are good aftermarket cases available- I have sen some things that would indicate these exist, but I have yet to see one. The next step is to get the dial, hands, and a good El Primero movement, which can be found on eBay, but sometimes you'll need to use a donor watch to take the movement from.

    119046-21989.jpg

    For a 6263, it is best to start with a DW, or to obtain a V72 case kit, which can sometimes be found on eBay. Usually the case kits will have almost everything you need, except the movement and dial (though each set differs; check the description of the contents prior to deciding on a purchase if you go this route). From here, you will need to obtain a dial and movement, and assemble. Or, you can get a pre-made DW with a V23 copy movement, and install some gen parts on it. I myself went with a complete DW, and swapped the copy movement for a genuine Swiss Valjoux 23 movement.

    119046-21990.jpg

    So, short answer... If you want a good Daytona, it's best to build it using high quality parts (or genuine parts when you can find and purchase those items). Difficult? Yes. But not impossible!

    ^_^

    Hope this helps...

    Best,

    R

    Yes, in Italy there are some "mercatini" (I do not know well like translate “mercatini” perhaps “encounter in the open air of non professional antique dealing vendors”) where is difficult but possible buy used original parts. I have two problems:

    1) I am not a orologist and I do not know to take apart and to assemble a watch (but can I learn this reading on RWG?)

    2) I do not know which base to use. It would appeal to to see (and buyed) one to me of these DW, but where they find themselves?

    In the RWG dealers the Daytona Zenith replica there is not, and vintage lemania $ 200 are bad, not a good base for upgrading project.

    You are very expert, if you lived in Italy I would come to visit you (with one good bottle of sparkling wine Ferrari or Berlucchi or Brunello di Montalcino) for to have your consils.

    Thanks for the answer,

  15. Hi fellfell. For the Daytonas... I have found that the only way to get a good one is to build it from parts. It is very expensive, yes... But the result is more than worth the effort, and for the 6263 and 16520, it is very possible to find parts, as they are not all proprietary Rolex.

    For the 16520 El Primero- You need a good case. In my project, I was lucky enough to find a genuine case, which fits the movement perfect. I am not sure if there are good aftermarket cases available- I have sen some things that would indicate these exist, but I have yet to see one. The next step is to get the dial, hands, and a good El Primero movement, which can be found on eBay, but sometimes you'll need to use a donor watch to take the movement from.

    119044-21991.jpg

    For a 6263, it is best to start with a DW, or to obtain a V72 case kit, which can sometimes be found on eBay. Usually the case kits will have almost everything you need, except the movement and dial (though each set differs; check the description of the contents prior to deciding on a purchase if you go this route). From here, you will need to obtain a dial and movement, and assemble. Or, you can get a pre-made DW with a V23 copy movement, and install some gen parts on it. I myself went with a complete DW, and swapped the copy movement for a genuine Swiss Valjoux 23 movement.

    119044-21992.jpg

    Yes, in Italy there are some "mercatini" (I do not know well like translate “mercatini” perhaps “encounter in the open air of non professional antique dealing vendors”) where is difficult but possible buy used original parts. I have two problems:

    1) I am not a orologist and I do not know to take apart and to assemble a watch (but can I learn this reading on RWG?)

    2) I do not know which base to use. It would appeal to to see (and buyed) one to me of these DW, but where they find themselves?

    In the RWG dealers the Daytona Zenith replica there is not, and vintage lemania $ 200 are bad, not a good base for upgrading project.

    You are very expert, if you lived in Italy I would come to visit you (with one good bottle of sparkling wine Ferrari or Berlucchi or Brunello di Montalcino) for to have your consils.

    Thanks for the answer,

  16. I have acquired a Daytona replica, I have seen the photos of the dealers of RWG, have read the posts, above all those of Ubi (very good) and have caught up some convictions

    I say, you say to me your opinion to you.

    Replica Daytona ref. 116520 (model puts into effect them). It has a movement (asian) valjoux second running at six.

    The too much high movement is and the watch is often nearly the double quantity of originates it them. Moreover mine (is not important WHERE I have buyed, all the Daytona that have dealers the RWG are identical) have a poor poor dial and it does not have the rifiniture that deserves the replica of the king of the rolex.

    2) Daytona ref ref. 16520 automatic rifle. Origonal have a caliber Rolex 4030 Zenith base, deeply modified. This watch that I love and I have not found from RWG replica dealers has, in replica a caliber valjoux/asian valjoux second running at 9.

    This caliber has subdials the too much far and watch is sbilenco (italian for cripple )

    3) Daytona vintages, Cosmograph, Daytona Paul Newman dial. Original have rolex caliber base Valjoux tricompax manual.

    Replicas have two movements, Valjoux/asian auto or Lemania (?? fake chinese movement that copy an old swiss movement that today is product in Russia as Raketa BIcompax.

    The firs have defects that I have listed before, the Lemania has only two subdials that work and the distance between subdials is different one that in originates it them.

    All dials are poor rifinited ecc..

    Is INCREDIBLE. In world of replicas exist very nice crono, see it http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showto...mp;hl=breitling

    this Breitling is nearly perfect (that what thoughts you of it?)

    and instead the watch more loved in the the decent world have not a decent replica.

    I have seen also many others sellers not only those of RWG, but the tragic situation is in every place

    I have tried also to try a replica with caliber Zenith original, but I have not never found any.

    For this Daytona replica with Zenith some persons would spend many dollars( also I).

    But it or does not exist or it hides. What thoughts you of all this? As I always ask excuse for your difficulties caused to my imperfect english. Good sunday to all friends

  17. Hi Fellfell,

    I am not sure where to find a good quality bezel insert. I have been looking for a genuine bezel insert myself but have not found one yet.

    As for the bracelet, have you compared your bracelet to a genuine Rolex bracelet? They are both very light with a poor feel. The modern MBW bracelet is heavier and while some people do prefer it, it is not light and flimsy like the genuine bracelet.

    You may be able to polish, oil and clean your bracelet to make it fit like you want.

    Thanks for counsil, regards

  18. For all of the native English speakers (like myself), I ran Fellfell's reply through a transaltor so we can see what it would be like to partcipate in our forum from his point of view :wounded1:

    Sorry, english forever, but tempation was very hard to speak not whit help of translator.

  19. :brow::blink: I love mystery and I'm Italian !!!!

    Welcome on "the Repwar" Fellfell !!!

    In parte è vero quello che dici anche gli MBW sono un pò una presa per i fondelli perchè sono pieni di

    difetti come le altre repliche e come le altre necessitano di modifiche il che fa lievitare notevolmente il loro

    costo.

    Io più che andare alla cieca opterei per quei modelli di MBW quasi perfetti... che necessitano di poche modifiche

    ci sono molte recensioni (in questa come in altre board) se fossi in te cercherei questi... oppure dei frankestein

    già belli che pronti... ciao

    Che bello parlare in italiano (anch'io amo i misteri ma non i venditori che fanno i misteriosi..)

    Scusa, adesso mi metti una pulce nell'orecchio, ma che sono i Frankestein gia' belli e pronti?

    Non dirmi di cercarmeli da solo senno' ti sparo...... scherzo ma dimmi qualcosa di loro.

    Per quanto riguarda MBW ho visto delle foto (vintages + sub attuale) mi sembrano proprio belli (sara' la foto?)

    Uno mi ha detto che costano 330 euro, nenche tanto tenuto conto che i venditori italiani di repliche ti rivendono i womart/aspire o simili a 350/400 e piu'.

    Gia' che parli italiano ti faccio la domanda cruciale: ma non esistono repliche belle (non dico perfette, figuriamoci !!) ma ben fatte, decenti?

    Ho comprato per prova un Daytona Precioustime e un sub wo/aspire ma sono proprio baracchette, funzionano ma sono oggettini da pochi soldi... Chi piu' spende meno spende ma il prodotto BELLO anche se un po' piu' caro pare non esista.

    Mi piacerebbe farmi una collezione di vintage, per questo cerco MBW ma anche crono vintage e naturalmente mi piacerebbe il solito Daytona acciaio quadrante nero, ma fatto bene, il mio Precious (uguale a tutti gli alti dei vari venditori di RWG) sembra l'orologio dell'uovo di Pasqua.

    Ti prego illuminami straniero che parli la mia lingua... scherzo ma attendo ansiosamente your answer

    Ciao

  20. My apologies, fellfell. I am sorry. I understand that English is not everyone's 1st or even 2nd language... And that getting answers can be difficult. I need to be more cognizant of people's situations and I understand that now.

    Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    OK sir, it is no problem.Good day

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