MJP

bangin2. Just killing some time.

Thank you. I understand. This is why I said from the beginning this thread is deletable, it's edgy, no doubt. I think this (swapping parts) happens, but the point is we don't talk about it, lest we condone it or be associated with it. That wasn't the title, but I get your point. I will lurk more, "contribute" less. I assure you I have no ill-intentions. Sorry everybody, I have a hard time letting chickenshit accusations and putdowns (not face to face) go. I'm here to learn, contribute make freinds like everyone else. I'll turn it down, near off. I will make .AI files, but I have no usable hi-res scans or photos. PM if u have helpful hints for me or want help. It seems like eveyone is pretty content with the quality of things as is.

Whatever. Your words?--more mockable than markable. Wow, always right, huh?! That's unbelievable! Nice self portrait. Assclown? Goes to show, ya give some insecure people an anonymous way to start [censored] they would normally in real life be afraid to start OR finish, they will. You are a perfect example. You want to get together sometime? Picnic?

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It's so close to the 196 anyway, no need I guess.

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The bouncers intimidated me, and I had no backstage pass. Seriously though--thank you, you're right, I never went in that section based on the title alone. Figured it would be over my head at this stage, but it looks like my K-nowledge and intersest is expanding to that point. AFTER POKING AROUND: Yes YES YES--thanx again--that's what I was missing.

PAM250. A watch with subdials. Maybe from this point anyone who does this and wants to can PM me. Those new datewheels will fit, right? I want to customize a 250 or 196 for visual accuracy, basically. I will probably have to start with a ETA movement model, I assume. This is why I am also interested in getting, or somehow helping to make if I can, a more accurate dial.

True. Unless they're REAL assholes and go, "Replicas? Oh sure, no problem! Come on in ASAP! Bring your ID and any other reps you might have, I'd love to see them! What time will you be here?" YKWIM? I joke, but who knows--they might have an agenda. They might be required to--I don't know Obviously if they said all that I would continue down the list. Actually if I was a watch repair dude I might do that for fun.

That would be funny though to make a guide on "How to Try to Take Apart Your Panerai, But End Up Ruining it Instead" Guide. Complete with "Step 1: Get your Tools Together", vice grips, big honkin needle-nose pliers, paper clip, WD-40, carpenter's hammer, 3/8in drill.

Like I said, I just want to see pix, like the sticky Rolex post. I won't "try it at home", promise.

Just wondering if it is standard practice among established shops. I would call first, but that leaves you no "out" if you needed to plead ignorant of it's origin, so to speak.

I just want to see pix.

Actually I just mean expensive or time consuming for a pro. Just want to clarify so I don't get the "don't try it" answers. Again, thanx. ADDED 10 MINUTES AFTER POST: This ones so stinking of noob, people are just passing it by, lol. Maybe I should phrase it: Can any of you recommend a watch repairer to switch out a datewheel and dial? And how much would they (you) charge and how much time would it take?

Thanx, knowledgable ones.

Thanx

This is probably old news to 99% of you but I found this picture of a gen 162. I was under the impression that whether it's a 196, 162, 250, TachyMETRE was just wrong. Do any dealers have a 162 that looks like this (with thinner dial numbers, Automatic Chrono type at 6, GRAY subdial BG)? BTW, the 196 is also correct in it's METRE spelling. METER is only on the 250. Also, if this thread is just too kindergarten for everyone, you can delete it. admins.

At this point, I don't know much about the watch-making process, this is true. But I will GUARANTEE you that somewhere in Italy, there are prima donna graphic designers comping and specing out fonts and layouts in Illustrator for watch designs and dials and casebacks, which they hand off to CAD production or industrial designers to start the real work. There are plenty of intermediary steps between them and a finished product, no doubt. And I have a pretty vague, maybe even naive understanding of that part. I just want it known what I can do, so that those of you that do understand and are involved with the complete process can use me if possible. It's just a way to contribute(hopefully) to my new hobby. If it's all over my head and my skills don't fit into this process, thats cool. School me, please. But from the PMs I've gotton so far, it sounds like maybe I can pitch in. Either way, I'm doing it for fun and not my $85/hour freelance rate so if I do create something and it's unusable, it's unusable. This is reverse engineering design, so it sounds even easier. I might be completely wrong, but there seems to be one step in the rep process that could use some tightening up on some models. Just putting myself out there. I want to re-do this 196(this is gen, notice METRE): This is probably a REALLY stupid question, but I still don't see why it's advantageous (as some of you say) to have flaws and inconsistancies. Is it really just because if they are too "real" looking, the hammer might come down on the little market? If so, it's time to ramp up the aftermarket parts and alterations market.

It is the best for it's "Panerai Luminor" font and the Tach spelling, for sure--big noticeable improvements. I have a Tantalium that is perfect looking compared to that 250, tho. One more dial and a Tach bezel (basically) and the 250 could be too. I'm glad there are a lot of satisfied people though, sincerely. I really think they should go back to older datewheel though, with bolder numbers, right? This is a big issue for me personally. It's set so deep in there in the first place, then that skinny incorrect font. Someone please at least back me up on that one. Or is the datewheel an integral part of the new movement? I know the vets around here are getting really sick of this thread--I can feel it. This is MY model though guys, the first watch I was attracted to and bought (w/ my B&R 2nd). I have all kinda love and passion for it. HAIRMPH!!!