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Perhaps he's shape-shifted into.....'the technician'......

Top Draw stuff The Zigmeister, case proven I think! Should be a slam dunk future reference and explanation to anybody questioning the correct way to service a movement. Thanks for taking the time to prove it!

Hmmm, I have my doubts but let's see. Let's see what The Zigmeister finds with his test.

At what point do you lubricate the barrel after cleaning? Your mentor/employer has only shown you this way for one reason....money. My mentor, recently retired but with 40yrs in the business, told me about similar techniques some of the companies he worked for used to use. No matter how you position it they are short cuts designed to maximize money. The reason he gave was costs / overheads spiral and punters won't bring a watch in for servicing if the service costs to much. It's that old scenario of how much the watch is worth vs how much it will cost to service every 5years. So, to keep service costs reasonable short cuts are taken....maybe great for common low end watches but as you point out, not a technique to be used on high end calibers!

I've never like the way the number 10 is cutoff...not for me... BTW: Excellent photo's as always TTK

I don't know the spec of this movment, is it 28,800?

Shocking. Looks like a DG8413M....

Eh!? Your not getting any attention because your wearing a Seiko to an AD so instead you wear a rep! What's the Sales guy going to think about your 'purchasing potential' when he finds out you're too cheap to wear an original of something.....well I supose you will get some sort of attention! It's not your Seiko that dosen't get you any attention it's you! Smarten up, look the part, have a [censored], shave and a shower...its the way you look and act not the Seiko on your wrist that'll get the sales guys attention.

Anybody taking their rep into an AD trying to fool them is an idiot.

This one is a Moscow Classic: One of the many companies along with Volmax that formed after Poljot collapsed...

This one is a Poljot: This one is a Volmax Aviator:

Hmmm, the 3133 is derived from the Val 7734, it's not really a copy. Also the site you reference is not Poljot but an AD for Volmax. There are two web sites for Poljot: http://www.poljot.ru and their web store http://www.poljot.com. Volmax was one of the many companies that emerged from the breakup of Poljot. Volmax own the trade names Aviator, Buran and Sturmanskie and still use Russian movements but also supply models based on ETA. Poljot no longer make movements, production for 31xx movement was sold to Maktime and 26xx to Vostok. Poljot continues as a brand name, supplying watches, but not as a movement producer. The situation is chaotic at the moment, if you are after a 'Russian' watch you can't be sure what you are buying. Ebay is a nightmare, there are Ebay sellers selling so called 'poljot' watches but they're really the sellers own creations and nothing to do with any of the Russian watch companies...

Yes, by .25mm, doesn't sound much but could cause problems esp. with a screw down crown.

The ones I've bought from cousins seem to be oiled.

Yes getting the date wheel over to the new movement is the biggest issue, as the overlay covers two of the dial plate screws it is a pain it the A** to remove and replace. I've not tried detaching the overlay but suspect it may be easier to do this than take the whole date wheel across..

It's this one: http://cousinsuk.com/default.aspx?disp=pro...roductid=462411

It's probably due to lack of lubrication of the click wheels or a pair of tight wheels in the auto wind bridge. As the Auto wind mechanism does not detach during hand winding the rotor can move as you note. You should always handwind these movements slowly...and probably only occasionally to get the watch started.

Hmmmm, I think Danny Boy has either installed the stem upside down (easy to do), forgotten to epoxy it back in place (another common mistake) but most likely he's left the tweezers in and they're gumming up the works. Best way to remove them and any other dirty items is to empty a can of WD40 into the watch works making sure you cover every bit. This will not only clean the watch but oil it and protect it against corrosion in one simple operation. Oh BTW I would recommend dropping the movement out of the case first and removing the hands and dial, we don't want WD40 on those delicate parts.....hope that helps...

Except you don't! Go and track down the 'white lies' thread...your 'ETA' may not be what it seems.....

This I gotta see!......

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! me Sir, me Sir! Here's your answer.... http://www.decalpaper.com/rub-on-paper.html Do I win? Do I win?

Corgi, stunning! Good on you pal for playing along!

He takes the [censored] every time he posts. If you don't know the history he could cost you if you followed one of his 'guides'. If this thread had come up a month ago then I would have agreed to ban him, however, I feel he is now 'game' for counter [censored] takes. As long as the mods are aware of him and enough senior members are around we should be able to steer the unwary away from him while having a bit of fun.....IMHO

Its because, dear Danny boy, Rolex choose to use real butter for lubrication while our reps have to make do with margarine...

Works for me!