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Hi Guys,

I have the submariner edition 2010 with ceramique bezel from Watch Internal. And it's unbelieveble.

Only thing i could find was:

The band scratches very fast...

The band is overal not soo good quality, i tried to smallen it, and broke 3 screws..

Do not mistake, the band feels super! but it seems i got one, where someone [censored] up all the screws...

The Glidelock is fixed.... so it looks like e glidelock, but it doesnt funtion.

The Replica of this one is heavyer then the Gen 2008 version. ( 156 grams // 136 grams )

I am waiting to get to my brother in law, he's got the gen, then i will try and put my first review online

PS

Bought almost 20 replica

To be fair, mechanical movements are pretty reliable, it is just like with a car, they need periodic servicing I'm not aware of any quartz replicas available which are of a decent quality. If you really wanted a quartz movement, you could always try looking for a cheap quartz watch on eBay with the right kind of hands, and then swap the movement into the Submariner

I think I will purchase a mechanical one even if it will be difficult to have a replica serviced.

Hopoe watch international will be a great dealer...

In order to not having problem with mechanism, do you know if it does exist Subamariner replicca that are quartz mechanism (with the continous movement of the needle ? Having a replica serviced can be difficult and may have more problem than a quartz one. It souhld be great to have a replica lloking exactly a Rolex but with quartz mechanism.

I choose the 2010 model for my father because I tought it was better but a 2009 model will be ok for him. It's too dificult for me to purchase a genuine for him And I think he will be furious if I bought a genuine for him

What i the price of a WM9 ? And who is selling a WM9 ?

I saw this on that seems not too bad. It seems to have the right size, has the Rolex engraved,... It 's written the watch has a 2836-2 ETA movement, do you think it's a genuine movement or an ETA copy ?

I don't know why sometimes Submariner replica has 41mm case and sometimes 40mm, do you know ?

Thanks

Teejay,

I am very happy with your advices. I learn a lot of thing just by this post. I hope this watch will be good. It is not for me but for my Dad. He love the submariner style.

Where did you purchase your replicas ? Did you have problems with customs since you are in UK (I am in France).

They might mean that the insert is ceramic-coated metal, not plastic. Ceramic-coated, while being more durable than the painted metal insert of older Submariners, will still not be 100% scratch-proof. Without destroying the insert, you are not really going to be able to tell either way if it is truly solid ceramic or just ceramic-coated...

As in my previous reply, there was a discussion a while back where replicas have been scientifically proven to not be 316L. If a dealer is advertising this, chances are they are lying.

For the simple reason that they are replica parts, so not made from the same grade material as genuine Rolex. I have a replica nearly two years old where the crown is as good as the day I received it. I used to have an Omega Planet Ocean replica which had to have the crown and tube replaced as the threads had stripped. Many things about replica watches can be 'luck of the draw'. Crowns and tubes can always be replaced with genuine parts, but this requires either the skills to do the work yourself, of contact with a good watchsmith or watch builder who can make the switch for you.

Ahh, I understand. Some watches have a serial numbers engraved, some do not, it seems to be pretty much the luck of the draw as to what stock is available. Same with the sticker... Sometimes it is holographic, sometimes it is just a green sticker. Price is not an accurate gauge in this matter... I bought a replica 5517 Submariner for about

I've highlighted the ones which're unrealistic.

-Submariner black with date (highest quality grade 1)

-2010 Model with genuine dimensions (If you cann tell me if it's 41mm or 40mm and which Tickness ?)

-Rolex engraved on Rehault with serial number

-Ceramic Bezel (not plastic & scracth resistant)

-Movement Genuine ETA 2836-2, swiss made, new and never used, not a copy,

-"Reserve of marche (the watch must work) at least 40 hours after being winded and without being worn

-Sapphire crystal glass

-Solid case 316L Steel and scratch resistant

-Solid and resistant CROWN (not pulling up after some years)

-All Rolex check control present on the watch like genuine

-Water resistant

You might be lucky and get 40 hours power reserve out of a movement, but getting a new and never used genuine Swiss made ETA 283-2, is unlikely. The bezel might be ceramic, rather than ceramic coated, but aesthetically speaking, it would make no difference. As for the 316L Stainless, there was a discussion about that some time ago, here's a link to the results. The crowns of replica watches (especially the Omega Planet Ocean) are well known weak points in the build quality.

If you want a watch with all Rolex check controls, buy a real Rolex, nothing else (in terms of replicas) will meet that standard of quality control and checking.

What is available to buy as a replica can be of very good quality, but they are not really to the level which you have described, and I think if you were to order a watch thinking you would receive those kind of checks/metallurgical make up/movement etc, you would be disappointed, and you might be better off trying to source parts to build the watch yourself, so you have precisely what you want Best of luck with your purchase though

Hi,

Watch international told me that the Bezel is ceramic and not plastic.

They also told me that the movement will be ETA 2836-2 will be genuine and new.

All replica seems to have their case 316 L no ?

Why are crown are not solid on replicas ? I bought a replica but after some months, the crown was broken. This point is very important for me, like genuine movement.

By Rolex check control, I mean, having the a serial number engraved, the sticker,.... Not the quality of Rolex but the things that make it looks like a genuine Rolex.

It sems that the real size is 40 mm but sometimes I see vendors selling replica 41mm. I don't why there is this oversize dimension.

Who are you planning on buying from? I'm sorry, but I think your expectations are unrealistic for a replica watch...

What expectations are unrealistic ?

Hi,

I would like to know what is the Submariner real size ? Sometimes I read 40cm with 13 Tickness, sometimes 41cm and 12cm,...

If somebody can give me the real size (the last model with Rolex engraved on rehault).

Thnks !

Hi,

I will oreder a submariner black on the forum. I just want yiou to check if I give enough information in order to not being in trouble if I receive a watch that don't feed what I was expecting.

Here are the caracteristics :

-Submariner black with date (highest quality grade 1)

-2010 Model with genuine dimensions (If you cann tell me if it's 41mm or 40mm and which Tickness ?)

-Rolex engraved on Rehault with serial number

-Ceramic Bezel (not plastic & scracth resistant)

-Movement Genuine ETA 2836-2, swiss made, new and never used, not a copy,

-"Reserve of marche (the watch must work) at least 40 hours after being winded and without being worn

-Sapphire crystal glass

-Solid case 316L Steel and scratch resistant

-Solid and resistant CROWN (not pulling up after some years)

-All Rolex check control present on the watch like genuine

-Water resistant

If you see some other informations to add, please tell me.

I will show you pics when I have

Bye

ceramic is more scratch resistant than paint on steel.

Even on replica watch Ceramic is more resistant ?

And which one is more resistant to scrtches ? This is the more important for me.

Hi Freddy,

Thanks for your answer. SO Ceramic Bezel on rep are very different from genuine.

If I order a replica submariner what is the best, ordering a sub with a ceramic bezel or with a "classical" bezel ?

Thanks for your help.

Hi,

I would like to know what is the difference between classical Bezel and Ceramic Bezel. When Replicas factory are realising Ceramic Bezel, is it from same material like Genuine ?

Thanks

And how can we recognize a genuine ETA from a chineese ETA. I know the chineese ETA is more noisy but when I ask for serial number of the movement for checking if it is a genuine ETA, nobody answers

If I ask for pics and show you on the forum, will you be able to recognize if it's a true or false watch ?

Thanks.

Hi,

For a replica, what is the best movement between an ETA 2836-2 and an Asian 3135 ?

Thanks

thanks Jkay !!!

Jkay, teacher for neebis

What is a noofactory and what is WM9 ?

I am like Torjus and I am seeking for the best submariner. Not easy to find and being assured the watch will last a long time is difficult.

Torjus,

Keep in touch for looking for the best watch.

That is not normal from presious time! i have never paid to china for and order did you go to www.ptswiss.com?

Yes, I received a mail from : pt (at)ptswiss.com

The mail I received is :

"Hi Friend,

Firstly i only accept western union and direct payment to china.. So this would not work with your current guideline below.

Maybe try another dealer

PT"

I was asking about paying by Paypal.

ETA is the largest movement maker. Some high-end watch makers take ETA movements and make them more pretty and then use them in their watch.

The difference between a BK watch and a Precious Time watch ... A normal dealer sells you factory-made watches. BK hand-finishes and inspects every piece.

Hi all,

Some news about my quest : I tried to contact Precious Time but it takes a long time to respond(they didn't receive my first mail) and the vendor seems very busy. I tought they were in UK, but they told me they want direct payment to China.

Do you have other vendors you can advice to me ?

Thnaks.

Thanks for all your advice, it should be great to find a Submariner with the appearence of a genuine Rolex and that has a quartz mechanism (no problem of maintenance)

The problem is that if I bring my Rolex to be serviced, when any retailer will see it is false he will refuse to repair the watch or will keep it.

QC is quality control, you have to use the contact button and ask for a price and the colour of the movement makes no difference what so ever, they are available to buy direct from ETA in silver or gold what ever takes your fancy.

I have bought about 10 watches over the last 5 years from PT and my friend maybe 50

Thanks, and your wathc is ok from theses 5 years ?

About movement, What must I ask to the vendor to be sure he will sell me a good movement ? I tought that ETA movement were all the same. I didn't know that there is Rodhium, gold,....

Is the ETA movement that are in replicas the same like an ETA in a Breitling watch ?

Another question, what is the difference between a watch made by BK and a watch from preicous time ?

Thanks

Thanks FXRAndy,

I went to Precious time, I saw the watch, but there is no price The movement is grey, for me, the 2632 ETA movement is gold no ?

It's how many times since you have your watch purchased from Precious time ?

What is a QC ?