Thanx's for the welcome guy's, I do like big heavey watches and when you see Massa at the end of a GP he's always wearing the watch and it look so big so I think I'll have me one of thouse, Oh and by the way Motley rock's, best played loud, I take it then that the photo's are the one's they sell and not photo's of the real thing thats what happend last time they looked to good but I knew I was taking a bit of a chance but hey live and learn.