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look at this one!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gev-Kuraz-Real-360-12Hr-Flying-Tourbillon-Mens-Watch-/250625338971?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3a5a6f2e5b

not bad!

Yes, that's what I was referring to:

The seller has a few other watch auctions too, by the way. One is the black dial version of the above tourby and two are very similar to the Glashutte Panomatic "12hr tourby" rep that I have, but look way better IMO (and not as obviously fake to anyone who has ever seen a gen open Glashutte). I actually love that rep's complication, but very rarely wear it since everyone at my work would spot it immediately and clown me forever. At least with a fake brand nobody will have ever heard of it.

I would suggest a $400-600 price would be the norm?

Sold for $371, so someone got a bargain I suppose. Personally, I wouldn't have paid over $300 without some more info on the watch and the seller.

Moon Phase ...that is a blatant lie other than that the movement is fine...GENEVE my ass

Yeah like Mickey said - it's just a Day/Night indicator, so it's legit in what it does - assuming this watch doesn't fall apart within a month. The last reason is why I'll always prefer dealing with someone on these forums or a trusted dealer than eBay. Sometimes you get a steal and sometimes you get screwed. On average, you get what you pay for.

I hear what all of you are saying, and naturally understood the "risk" in posting this, but I don't mind this watch finding a home with one of the other members if they value it more than I do. If anything, I can say that I've helped out someone on the forums get a good deal instead of just trolling like I always do.

The seller has a few other watch auctions too, by the way. One is the black dial version of the above tourby and two are very similar to the Glashutte Panomatic "12hr tourby" rep that I have, but look way better IMO (and not as obviously fake to anyone who has ever seen a gen open Glashutte). I actually love that rep's complication, but very rarely wear it since everyone at my work would spot it immediately and clown me forever. At least with a fake brand nobody will have ever heard of it.

What do you guys think about this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250624774357

Looks like a standard asian (Seagull?) tourbillon with a GMT and time of day complication added on. A really well put together one, and priced cheaper than other eBay asian tourbys (and from a US seller). Still, at that price this can't possibly have any semblance of quality, right?

Yeah, that cabochon does look black... Wonder if that's actually in their production piece (ft0472's looks like it could be black)?

"Cabochon" - I knew there had to be a proper name for it! That being said, a watch named "Ballon Bleu" would have to have a blue one, don't you think?

I've been thinking about getting this Cartier in RG with the 2892, but one thing that seems off to me is the "jewel" in the crown isn't actually blue, but rather black...

Hi everyone,

The title pretty much says it all. I've been to all the reputable rep sites I know and can't find a single Genta rep there, let alone a quality one. Do they even exist? It's not that niche of a brand...

Specifically I'd love to find a Biretro...

Thank you very much for your help!