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Thanks guys

The DLC have a rep Assolutamente V1 strap.

The SS on a HKtan strap.

The titanium 390 looks awesome too!

Thats my watch

There are some more with my SS 390 in a Noob 111M case (now changed to a Noob 111N case).

3719 Slevin

The new updated Noob 111N.

More accurate dial, new awesome CG, single sided AR, better case.

You can not loose

I'm glad that this worked out for the OP.

But I’m just curious:

Mike never got the new correct address from Concepta?

The Zigmeister will not service a Concepta built watch....that's all I need to know...

Concepta don’t build these watches.

He can get gen parts but he doesn’t build them.

Domi used to build Conceptas 3714 until his work started to take to long and people started to complain about his work.

Some time ago Concepta started to work with Mike/texski in the US who has built the latest 3714.

So the correct statement would be that The Zigmeister will not work on a Domi built 3714.

From my understanding olive oil can damage leather.

But Im no expert. Just something a strapmaker wrote on another thread on this subject.

Are You sure its the crystal that are scratched and not the AR?

If its the AR then Uwe just need to strip the old AR and apply new.

I totaly agree!

Its the crown of my collection.

But Im not so sure I want to eat it

Here is my 359 that Avitt did his magic on

Not sure if he is on RWG but You can find him on RG and W-C.

Here is my 036

How many versions are there of this watch?? is it already to V3 status or is V2 the latest. I'm enthralled with this watch but know none of its flaws or version distinctions.. Anyone off the top of their head that can give me a brief run-down. All I know is that V1 has round date window.

From the top of my head (without dubble check so I might have missed something.)

There are two makers of the Diver: Channel maker and Noob (AP ROO sec @ 12 maker).

Channel maker was the first with round date window and white date wheel with balck numbers and spelling error on the caseback: V1

They utdated the date color to correct black with white numbers: V2

Then updated the spelling error on the back and added a screwdown crown @10: V3

After that Noob released their Diver that was better in some ways (and worse in some): V4

Now I see another update (from the Channel factory or a new player?)

http://www.puretimewatch.com/product/ap-2011-09-06-02/

V5 or V3 MkII

I think thats all....

Thats my post between the H-maker 111M vs. Noob new 111M

But You want to know the difference between The old Noob 111J and the new Noob 111M?

First: I dont think that the 111J is made any more, maybe You could pick up a used one?

But the main differences Noob 111J vs. Noob 111M are:

Improved crystal with much better AR

Improved lume. The 111J had real crappy lume. The 111M have great lume!

Platinum plated movement

Changed the printed dial text colour to a more creamy one

Much better lugg screws that are flush on both sides.

111M got a different strap notch.

That al I can think of on top of my head, but I'm sure there is more

Thanks for the tip Theo.

How am I able to get 20% off? I cannot see it on there website? If it would be in the newsletter, can you forward it to me?

Just use the code:

LABORDAY2011

at checkout and You are set

Here are pics that shows the blue hue on the AR on the Noob.

Remember, this is barely noticeable in real life.

is the slightly blue AR on the noob a dead giveaway that it is not gen?

awesome review btw

No, its very subtle and can only be seen very weak in some indoor light.

Its nothing like the blue rep AR we use to see on some old reps.

On the H you can see some colour less hue and on the N there is a slight blue tone.

I will see if I can post some pics tonoght.

Here is the review I did on RG and I might as well put it up here to

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I know You all seen picture of these two great reps, ToroBravo made a great side by side of them.

But since I have them both I thought that I would compare the details that matter to me (and hopefully You)

N = Noob (or AP ROO sec. @ 12 maker).

H = Hublot maker

AR:

Both have great AR but I think the H have a little stronger AR.

N have a slight blue hue to it when under a indoor light, the hue on the H is more colourless.

Number cut-outs:

The N seems to have slightly deeper numbers.

Dial surface and printing:

The N looks great under the sun! A more matte, slightly grey dial with structure and raised creamy printing.

Lume:

Both look great uncharged. The H have a little whiter uncharged lume while the N have a hint of grey.

When charged under the sun for one minute both glows like crazy, but it looks like the N fades a little quicker.

Crown:

N have a thicker crown. Or maybe its not so bevelled.

Crown guard:

This was my main concern about the Noob. I love the H-factory CG.

But after seeing a few CQ pics of different N 111 I found one that I’m really happy with. Maybe not as good fitting lever/body as the H but it’s a keeper.

I was thinking to change the CG to a H but look at the pin for the rollerball on the Noob lever.

Its almost invisible, and I think that’s just the way the looks like. (Experts correct me if I’m wrong.)

That’s the main reason I’m keeping the Noob CG on.

Strap notch:

I’m no expert what to look for, but this is what it looks like.

Movement:

Well, this is like day and night.

Noob, reliable platinum plated, engraved high-beat movement.

Hublot, Crappy old low-beat with stickers (?).

This is a no brainer..

Caseback:

The engraving is deeper on the Noob. But I think the serial number have a better finish on the H.

I read somewhere that the Noob have a sapphire CB while the Hublot have a mineral.

Luggs:

Again, I’m no expert what is more gen-like for a M series. But You can see the difference here.

I forgot to take pics of the lugg screwbars, but they are great on both. Much improved over the 111J from the noob factory. Perfect flush on both sides.

Seconds pin:

The N have a incorrect white pin on the seconds hand while the H have a correct bare metal.

Closing pictures is a comparison between the old Noob 111J (DLC in these pics) and the new Noob 111M for those who wants to know the difference between the old and new Noob.

Final word:

I’m keeping the Noob as my 111 and send the H-factory case to Avitt for some project

In EU I usually buy from Dirk, Simona, Orloff or OEM from the Panerai boutique.

World wide:

Ray, Inspire workshop, Peter Watch Acc, the list is enless.

Check out Paneristi for some more great strap makers

But I thought the crown should also sit flush to the case? Now there is a gap of 2mm to the case.

Theo

First You cut or file the stem carefully until You have a gap betwen the case and crown You are happy with.

Then You start to file on the lever with a jeweler file and test fit it often until it closes thight on the crown.

You might not need to file the lever after bringing the crown closer to the case.

Good luck!

Link?

http://www.dw-watches.tk/

Orloff is really great with these croc grain JV straps.

I have 5 in different sizes and colors.

As for DSN coatings.

They are different. The 360 is with his old case and PVD.

The 009 is a new case/crown/CG and lighter (grey) PVD. MUCH better!

I had both and I liked the 009 PVD case so much I bought two more for some projects

005 is OOS currently. where can i get a decent dealer?

Here:

http://www.rwgforum.com/forum/230-watches-clothing-accessories/

It looks like the 005K just got back in stock.

Just placed an order for two

I love the 3717

I dont have a Top Gun, just order the strap from my dealer when getting some other watches.

I have the same watch

Get a rep Top Gun (V2) kevlar strap and a rep IWC buckle or deployment.

Look great!