Well, this may sound self serving as I am selling my 111J at the moment, but as a Panerai Nut who has multiple gen Panerai. I was thoroughly impressed with the 111J. I had been out of the rep game for a while and was so curious that i decided to order one of these "super reps" as a daily beater. The 111J is uncannily similar to Genuine. For me though, I have all stainless polished Gen Luminor's (112 and 000)so having never owned a Ti watch....I think im going to give the new 177 a try.