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calatrava

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  1. None of the mechanical alarms are particularly melodic (all the ones I know under $10K, like the JLC Memovox and the Vulcain Cricket, buzz), and you're not going to find a cheap mechanical petite sonnerie or minute repeater with (or without) a display caseback. If you want something that alarms without a buzzing sound, then your only choice in your price point is quartz.

  2. Happily the number of real flaws (dead / dyimg movements, hands come loose, markers come loose) are minimal, I think I've heard maybe 7 out of 400 delivered from the pre-release orders. Dunno how that compares to other mark 1 fresh releases, but it doesn't seem too bad to me.

     

    To put that failure rate into perspective, the Aramar Arctic Ocean Snowflake homage with a top grade ETA 2824-2 had at least 2 dead movements out out a batch of 100. 

  3. All the SW200 based Nautiluses are from the same factory, and are distinguished by the custom datewheel overlay, which allows them to place the data window right by the edge of the dial. The only difference is whether the watch comes with the older custom shaped rotor (with a Calatrava cross decal), or the newer model with a regular shaped rotor but a better Calatrava cross. For me, I prefer the one with the custom shaped rotor.

  4. Revolution Magazine has decided to honor the Tudor Heritage Black Bay with Best Watch Design, and the Tudor Pelagos with Ultimate Value in the 2012 Revolution Awards.
     
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    Both watches are made exceptionally well, with very precise bezel actions, and very well made bracelets. In general, the fit and finish on both watches is very good. The ceramic bezel with lume infused markers on the Pelagos is a very nice touch, as is the innovative clasp that allows for tool-free micro-adjustments (like a Glidelock clasp) together with a spring loaded mode that automatically adjusts to changes in the thickness of your wet suit due to changes in depth. On the Black Bay, the clasp lacks the tool-free micro-adjustments, but uses the more traditional spring bar based system that is seen on the older Submariners. The clasp uses spring loaded ceramic ball bearings to secure the latches, which is very secure, yet very smooth in its operation.
     
    Having said this, these are two very different watches. The Pelagos is quite possibility the ultimate value in serious no-nonsense dive watches, and everything about it, from the matte finishing on the bracelet and case, matte dial, luminous bezel and large hour markers and snowflake hands, and the innovative clasp, are designed with a diver in mind. It is however extremely understated, and if you're looking for a bit of bling and flash in your tool watches, then you might be rather disappointed. Some people have commented that the watch doesn't look expensive, but I think that reflects the design choices that focus on a no compromise tool watch (without shiny and polished parts), and does not reflect on the quality of execution. There is a nice discussion of the Pelagos, with some nice photos here:
     
     
    The Black Bay is an attempt to evoke the feel of a vintage watch, but in a modern sized watch, with modern levels of quality construction and execution. I think collectors of vintage watches might be turned off by the faux vintage elements, like the burgundy bezel (intended to evoke the look of a faded bezel), rose gold surrounds on the hands and markers (intended to simulate patina), and the distressed leather strap. For me, I like the idea of a modern watch with a vintage feel, and a splash of color that gives it a rather unique character. I should note that even though the Black Bay uses an ETA 2824-2 movement, Tudor has modified it so that it is missing the middle stop that adjusts the date, since the watch does not feature a date. More generally, Tudor modifies their top grade ETA 2824-2 movements to replace the shock absorption with KIF, and the regulator with a Triovis fine-adjustment regulator. There's a nice review of the Black Bay:
     
     
    At the end of the day, I decided to keep the Black Bay because it's a fun watch that was relatively affordable for a watch with an excellent level of fit and finish, whereas the Pelagos was much too serious a dive watch that didn't fit well with my lifestyle.
     
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    And now for some comparisons of the Tudor Pelagos and Black Bay with some Rolex watches.
     
    The Black Bay compared to the Rolex Ceramic Submariner 114060
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    The Pelagos compared with the SD and DSSD
     
     
    The photos from that thread for those who aren't TRF members.
     
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    This is a photo comparing the Pelagos and BB, so you might place the above thread in context.
     
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    Some other photo comparisons I found:
     
    Compared to a GMT IIC
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    The BB on the different strap options
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  5. My replica collection has undergone some consolidation, and a few new additions in 2012, so I wanted to share the state of my replica collection at the end of 2012.
     
    Jaeger-LeCoultre
     
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    Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Compressor Diving Navy SEALs (Noob, asian ETA clone)
     
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    Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Tourbillon (Hangzhou 3301 co-axial tourbillon movement)
     
    Patek Philippe
     
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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 3520D (quartz)
     
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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 5107 (asian ETA clone)
     
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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119 (asian manual wind movement)
     
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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 5120/1G (Swiss ETA)
     
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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 5127 (asian 21j automatic movement)
     
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    Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 (Blue Dial, Sellita SW200-1)
     
    Vacheron Constantin
     
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    Vacheron Constantin Overseas (Deep Stream, asian ETA clone)
     
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    Vacheron Constantin Overseas (White Guilloche, Swiss ETA)
     
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    Vacheron Constantin Patrimony Chronograph (Seagull ST19 movement)
     
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    Vacheron Constantin Patrimony Contemporaine (front)
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    Vacheron Constantin Patrimony Contemporaine (back, asian ETA clone)
     
    Miscellaneous
     
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    DSN Fifty Fathoms Homage (asian ETA clone)
     
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    Panerai 111N (Noob V3, asian 6497 clone)
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    Patek Philippe Calatrava (fantasy model, looks similar to Patek Philippe 3939 minute repeater tourbillon)

    Asian microrotor movement, 40mm diameter, 8.1mm thick.

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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 5107.

    Asian ETA 2824-2, 37mm diameter, 9.7mm thick.

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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 5127.

    Asian 21j movement, 37.6mm diameter, 9.4mm thick.

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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 3520D.

    Quartz movement, 33.5mm diameter, 7.5mm thick (with domed sapphire crystal, 5.2mm with original flat crystal).

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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 5119.

    Asian manual-wind movement, 36mm diameter, 7.7mm thick.

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    Patek Philippe Calatrava 5120.

    Quartz movement, 35mm diameter, 6.8mm thick.

  7. Well, I guess the obvious question is what does A+ mean to you in terms of replica watches? As already mentioned, the watch is the incorrect size, which most people would consider to be a poor replica by definition, since it will come across as an obvious fake to people familiar with the brand. Wouldn't you be better off with a regular AP Royal Oak Jumbo, which at least is the correct size, and with the exception of the movement displayed in the display caseback, is a much more credible replica?

  8. I'm obviously the minority here, but I never intend to get a gen. Ever.

    It just depends on the value you can give to your hobby. I can't justify paying $5k for a watch. Maybe this is because I've only recently made my way from middle class to upper class. I can however justify paying about $1k for ~4-5 good reps. I've worn my 45mm PO for about a month now and nobody has even noticed it, let alone questioning the authenticity.

    I'm not the type that can keep my watches in good condition, so my resale value on a gen would be terrible.

    The only factor that makes me want a gen is the fact that I can't put my rep anywhere near water..

    What is your definition of upper class? The conventional definition used by sociologists refers to the top 1%, and I find it hard to believe that a person with an income and net worth in the top 1% would choose to buy replicas and never buy a gen.

    Most of the people on the forum with a significant degree of disposable income have at least one gen watch, and satisfy their need for variety in their watch collection by rounding it off with replicas, and frankens. Surely you should be able to afford a nice gen watch that you can wear in water, and not have to worry about reselling, otherwise, what's the point of being wealthy?

  9. This is a photo of the Omega logo on the crystal on my vintage De Ville. It really is very small, and it helps to have a loupe when you're looking for it. The guy who replaced the crystal clearly didn't realize it was there, so it was installed upside down.

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