Ok so he's lying about the hands, they are not original, they are aftermarket. The dial is his, it's ok but not great. The movement is right. It's not a Franken just because it has a gen movement and a 1680 insert.. His cases do accept gen parts but a t17 needs slight shaving to fit. If you can get it cheep enough it may be worth it as a base to make a real Franken but I know he prob wants a lot so stay away, build your own based on his case or phong's