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You have spoken words of truth to a degree and thanks for your honesty. I glad everyone found this entertaining last I check reading post on the forum is not lurking and the truth as you said I did make restitution and by the comment a member made and that was deleted by nanuq is that my personal info was unmasked because the same person did that on rwi as well. From the last time I check it was not deleted.

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Thank you have a nice day thank for your support

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I was not trying to do confirm my veracity. Just was reading what people said and want to clear things up. Didn't know I was so popular. Honestly I didn't know how my handle became my email and don't know how to change it. A lot of things were said about rwi so I wanted to clear the air. I'm not trying to win anyone over. It is not my intention. What I said about Rwi is true. Like it or not. Just wanted to throw it out there since people speculate and gossip maybe they would like to here it from the horses mouth so to speak. I appreciate you protecting my personal info. I check rwi and my personal info is listed. As a professional I am was cognizant for any legal ramifications that ones action my bring. I am not judging but the tradition of unmasking persinal info is my opinion is quite dangerous and one day be disasterous. I hope this won't happen. If this happens the forums would be sued out of existence. Just my thoughts. In terms of trying to confirm my veracity, it is not everyday my credit card and debit card gets lifted and the process of how things done I am not familiar with. Reading the thread, I understand exactly how it happens. It is your prerogative to ban me. Again my apologies for the charge backs. I am a person of financial means and don't think I'll miss 2600 dollars. I'm not tooting my wealth but since a lot of people are aware of what I do and gossip about it. Just throwing it out there. Why would I care about 2600 dollars, I make that in three hours of work. Well I said my peace. Well I'll check out repgeek. I know mods talk to each other and may vouch for each other. The audacity of the rwi mods to ask me to unmask is unbelievable. Just my two cents. In terms of legal action, I am not trying to punish anyone, but twice this unmasking issue has cross my path in the forums. I am quite surprised that a policy has not been instituted to avoid in my opinion is a serious mistake in behavior. It is obvious to see the legal ramifications of such behavior as tradition on the forums. As in term of me suing, anyone it is to stop this behavior. My attention at rwi was not to sue but notify rwi by return receipt certified mail that I unmasked under duress. So that's what happened so that be clear. You brought up the legal issue hence the clarification. I appreciate your help but I have been forthright in this regard. Of course this my opinion. I a lot of trash is said about me and I have been quiet so maybe if someobe asked me I tell them what happened. I would never unmasked anyone again I think this behavior is in no such term stupid legally

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Want to clear up what happened on Rwi since I'm here. I was on rwi a number of years and decided to sell some pieces. Well I sold a item to some chap and he had concerns about the bracelet. I was pm by mod who didn't say was a mod and I had to correct the situation. I asked who are you. Obviously didnt the know he was a mod. Kind of flipped him off. Well after some talking compensation was made for the I'll described item. Next thing I know some mod pms me and asked me if I knew this person on the forum and they were on a scammer hunt. Well I didn't know what they were talking about. They asked about some personal details on this alleged scammer. I refused to unmask this person and then after some threats of banning from I unmasked the said scammer. I had unmasked this person and the better part of me though oh [censored] I put this guy in harm way. I then got summarily banned. I usually don't put dirty laundry out but I'm letting you know from my side the Rwi story

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They always ask you which transaction are not yours
Is easy to say all not mine


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Yeah thats the story, but if stolen card was found out recently, the bank is stopping PP charges 3 months back? Im sure they asked him which charges and he probably gave them wrong info.

May not be ill intent but still carelessness.

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Yeah thats the story, but if stolen card was found out recently, the bank is stopping PP charges 3 months back? Im sure they asked him which charges and he probably gave them wrong info.

May not be ill intent but still carelessness.

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Sorry about the double posts it look like my post wasn't posting

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That looks nice as it is

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Seem pf down too

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If things don't succeed throw money at it

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Just me the perfect sub tons of money in that

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Rwi who cares rwg is where it at:)

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Sorry to hear that snobbery that's all

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Wow

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Nice did you waterproof this

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Yes selling fake hallmark case in the west can cost millions in fines and legal fees. Sterile cases with fake sn is fine just no model number or orig rolex design. Cant touch sellers in the East. I'll go in partial for 3d scan fee with partial rights. Trial run with usa cnc company they plenty of those even Chinese cnc Co. See the cost are results. Cost not too crazy for for 20 cases. The machining I'm clueless

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I spoke to a watch parts re-seller in China about a custom case order and he got in touch with a factory that previously made a high quality Vintage Rlx Case that he sold. I asked this particular guy, because I bought a good case from him at a good price and the case-back is the first one I've owned where my Rolex Oyster Opener fits like a glove (maybe just coincidence ) . The "MONTRES ROLEX..." embossing on the inside is also very good and better than on other 1000$+ cases that I've seen.
Here is what I gathered so far:

• Minimum Order Quantity is 100 Cases, though it will be cheaper if a bigger order is placed (they normally do bigger production runs than 100).
• The factory needs 3D Scans or Drawings. For best results, they also need a genuine sample case. 
• They have experience making oyster watch cases and they do full detailing on the case (and assembly if crown/tube/pushers are part of the case) - not just simple CNC'ing.
• I don't have a price/case yet. My contact said the factory needs 3D Scans or Drawings for a proper price quotation. I will see if I can get at least a ball-park figure for a run of 100, 200 and 500 cases without the 3D Scans. 
• Based on pricing I could negotiate for a single case that he had in stock, I'd estimate that a run of ~100 Cases can be realized for 100$ or less per case (excl. the cost of 3D Scanning!).

Can I see a show of hands who is interested in pursuing this further? What I mean is: Willing to share the upfront investment & work involved and aware of the risks involved (I've been around for 10 years and the majority of member projects which involved more than a datewheel turned to [censored] in one way or another).
Where were we on the topic of 3D Scanning? Is there only this one company that takes 1000$ for case scan, or did someone have a scanner at work or otherwise accessible (or know of a cheaper vendor)?
 
[mention=49675]paristoto[/mention] (as FYI)

I'll invest in laser scanner and cnc perfect vintage case sterile only don't want legal trouble by contract only for investment. Easy to sell

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so this just got more interesting. The company I am talking to already has a 3D scan of the daytona case. Now Im trying to convince them to sell us the file but because it was done for another customer, they have proprietary right to it. He is going to check and see if the other party is willing to sell it to us.
But again this is for the daytona.

"Yeah but aren't there pretty good cases that can be modified into a pretty good 5513? I thought MBW cases and even the new cartels were pretty good except for the crown guards and some other finishing details. 1675 cases are all way to thick and that's something that's not easily fixed."
I say the best way (low $$) is to use what is available and forget about trying to have cases made.  If you are not versed in the ins and outs of case making, the learning curve may be very steep and expensive.  Case and case back threads are not easy at all to cut for example and someone who is a whiz at cnc machining/shaping a case may be lost when it comes to cutting threads.  Mirror polishing case sides and bevels on lugs are probably also not in the cnc machinist bailiwick.  These cases look simple but they are not.  A $50 replica submariner case may be the product of a $5 million operation that makes cases for swiss oem, mushroom brands, contract watches etc as well as replicas.  The steel replica submariner cases that were used in some $75 replicas that I have are stamped 'E. Gluck' inside the case and E. Gluck is a HUGE outfit.  Take my word for it.  Or not.
http://egluck.com/
Otoh, if someone wants 1000 cases, fly to Guangzhou and shop around for a connection to have them made...pay your $$...and take your chances.  I have a friend who used to have private brand watches made so I know what I am talking about.  More or less.
Imho what members should be looking for are:    1...An affordable case that is close to begin with.    2...Someone who can detail the case, drill lug holes, machine a proper case tube seat etc at a reasonable cost.    3...Someone who can engrave letters/numbers that are accurate to oem.
I hate to be a downer but above all...I am a realist.        Sorta.

My sympathies but whoever said Forums are a democracy. Doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong. I can't say I read the first thread but in this case you seem reasonable. They don't want yours or anyone else's opinion. They just want business to flow smoothly - it is a gen sales forum. I don't know why you waste any time on them other than to buy and sell gens. They have neither the time nor the inclination to debate the merits of your's or anyone else's membership. It is obviously the wrong forum for you (and me).

They don't like you and you don't like them - get over it and move on. Obviously a number of our esteemed members have.

This happened to me had modder fix it too complex for me. The best I can do is stare at watch and wind it

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This forum the user seem more mature and polite and have a life. See more gens here. I know anyone can finance a gen but not multiple gens. Welcome

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Anyone know of any TD who has red 1680 with white lume in 2836

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Doesn't mean a thing eta or not still need to regulate

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Who cares

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Muslims are terrorist by definition it is written in their Holy book to kill the infidel argue with that.

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… [Jake Neuman is the author of "Islam and Sharia Law Are Treason: Jihad Is Treason" and Prophet Muhammad (AKA ALLAH): (free download) at islamreform.net). His bookISLAM -- EVIL IN THE NAME OF GOD™ was banned in Malaysia.]

THE 10 MOST DIABOLICAL EVIL TEACHINGS IN ALL HUMAN HISTORY

Unlike David Letterman who starts his Top 10 List from Number 10, we will start from number 1.

Following are the 10 most evil teachings in history that surprisingly are divine teachings of Islamic God Allah. Obviously, Islam's Allah was not the God whom the pre-Islamic Arabs used to worship as their God, but was the alter-ego of Muhammad.

Every word of the Quran was Muhammad's own, which he put on the tongue of his imaginary friend Allah (AKA Muhammad). Islam is out and out fraudulent. (For detailed explanation of each teaching go toislamreform.net)

Most evil teaching # 1: Islam's paradise of evil, demented, depraved sexual perversity

Verse 9:111 – Muslim's passport to paradise

"Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph."

Islam teaches that if Muslims slay or are slain (kill or are killed) in the service of God, i.e. Jihad, they are guaranteed accession to Allah's paradise of depraved sexual perversity. Islam's Paradise is filled with whorish virgins possessing voluptuous breasts and lustrous eyes. Muslims, blessed with an access to Paradise, will have 72 such virgins to engage in incessant copulation. Furthermore, a Muslim's surest way of getting a passport to Paradise, says Allah, is to get slain while trying to kill the kafirs. The Quran is no more a holy book than Playboy, Penthouse, and Hustler are holy books. Indeed, the Quran is worse in that it incites unrestrained murder of infidels.

Most evil teaching # 2: Kill the infidels wherever you find them

Quran 9:5 (the infamous verse of the sword inciting mass murder):

"Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

Verse 9:5 teaches Muslims to commit mass-murder. The kafirs must either convert to Islam, who would keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate (zakat), or be murdered. Command for unconditional slaying of humans, God's own creations, by other humans – when presented as a sacred teaching of the almighty Creator – becomes a most evil teaching. Needless to say, such teachings never came from God.

Most evil teaching # 3: Extortion verse:

Quran 9:29:

"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

Here, Allah the Islamic God commands Muslims to attack and kill the so-called 'people of the book' (i.e. Jews and Christians), until they are defeated and submitted to the supremacy of Islam and, in willing humiliation, pay jizya (submission) tax to Muslims. Like verse 9:5, 9:29 is a call to mass murder and extermination. Only Hitler had openly instructed his followers to exterminate the Jews so completely. When such a teaching is presented as a teaching of the Creator of the Universe, it becomes extremely evil.

Most evil teaching # 4: Verse of barbaric cruelty

Quran 5:32-33

In order to portray Islam as a wonderful religion, Muslim taqiyah tacticians, including President Obama, will always quote the verse 5:32, which says, "We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."

Verse 5:32 is a teaching of mass extermination and genocide. When President Barrack Obama gave his speech in Cairo, he quoted from Verse 5.32 "whosoever killeth a human being, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind."

Isn't this a wonderful teaching from a wonderful God worthy of quotation by the President? Wait a moment while I grab my handkerchief and clear the tears from my eyes. It is just such a beautiful teaching. "whosoever killeth a human being, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind." Only a true God could create such a teaching of love. Could provide such guidance for mankind. A divine, timeless teaching worthy of a divine, timeless God.

But wait a moment. The President did not quote Verse 5:32 correctly. He left out a most important part of the teaching. God has created in his infinite wisdom two exceptions to his teaching." whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind," We can killeth a human being for manslaughter and corruption in the earth and it will not be the killing of all mankind.

And what does the exception "corruption in the land" mean. All human beings who do not convert to Islam have declared war on Islam and Allah, are a danger to Allah, and therefore have created corruption in the land and must be murdered. All Apostates of Islam by rejecting Islam are creating corruption in the land. Muslim women who demand equality with men are creating corruption in the land. All Muslim girls who refuse to obey their fathers by adopting Western culture are creating corruption in the land. And on and on.

President Obama quoted Verse 5:32 in his Cairo speech as a symbol of the wonderful, wonder of Islam. The President quoted a teaching that justifies the mass murder of 305,000,000 Americans who are non-Muslim. This is a teaching of madness masquerading as a teaching of love. And how are the kafirs to be murdered for making "corruption in the land." Read the following Verse 5:33

Verse 5:33 says:

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;"

Teachings as contained in this verse – "they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land" – are cruel and barbaric in nature. When those teachings are presented as God's, it becomes extremely evil, no better than those Hitler had committed.

Most evil teaching # 5: Allah's teaching of pedophilia

Quran 65:4:

"And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed divorce period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him."

The most important duty of any species is the care and protection of its young. The prime duty of mankind is to raise children in a safe and caring environment, so they can progress into responsible adults. There is no worse crime than the sexual abuse and exploitation of children. But verse 65:4 clearly approves marriages and sexual copulation with pre-pubescent little girls, who haven't started menstruating yet. And Muhammad at the age of 50 duly complied with this sanction of Allah by marrying his niece Aisha, only 6 years old. This is an extremely evil teaching. Allah is a pedophile monster.

Most evil teaching # 6: Sanctioning unrestrained slavery and rape for Muhammad by his Allah

Verse 33.50 says:

"O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those [slaves] whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her – specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful".

The term "possessions of the right hand" mean slaves. It is expressly stated that Muhammad's slaves, which he attained as a share of the captives in raiding infidels communities, were actually given to him by Allah Himself. And Allah also makes raping them halal for Muhammad (and his Muslim followers).

The verse also gives a special privilege to Muhammad to marry as many wives as he desires, beyond the restriction of four wives for ordinary Muslims. When God's teachings encourage a people to wage wars to capture the women for raping as well as encourages His holy prophet to engage in unrestrained marriage for sexual gratification, there can't be a teaching as evil as this in such matters.

Most evil teaching # 7: Sanction of wife beating

Quran 4:34:

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

A Muslim woman is the property of her husband. A Muslim husband has the legal right and religious obligation to beat a wife if she disobeys him, is disloyal to him or simply does not please him. The concept of wife abuse does not exist in Islam. There is no concept of martial rape. A Muslim woman cannot refuse sex with her husband. According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:

She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (i.e. "let's herself go")

She refuses to meet his sexual demands

She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"

She neglects her religious duties

Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce. These are evil affronts to the idea of equality and dignity of women – very evil teachings, indeed.

Most evil teaching # 8: Allah takes a shares of plundered booty

Quran 8:41:

"And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah, - and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, - if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing, - the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things."

This verse was revealed about how the booty captured in wars – such as after attacking and mass-slaughtering the Jews of Banu Quraiza – would be distributed. And most horribly the Islamic Allah Himself claims a share of the booty along with His prophet. God is the Creator of everything in the Universe. When that God encourages some people to attack and mass-murder others, so He Himself can take a share from the wealth captured from those murder people – no evil can get higher than this.

Most evil teaching # 9: Allah is a barbarian

Quran 24:2 says:

"The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, -- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."

This verse says that Muslims must not have mercy on people, who commit adultery or fornication, and punish them brutally with 100 lashes in public. However, since other verses in the Quran specifically allow men to have sex slaves, the horrible crime of serial rape against a non-Muslim woman is not considered adultery or fornication and would not be punished as the woman would be considered God-given concubine.

What kind of person could flog a woman 100 times for having sex with the man she loves? On the other hand, Islamic God, evil as He is, allows men to force sex upon their unwilling wives (verse 4:34). Undoubtedly the God of Islam is out and out barbaric to sanction evil teachings such as these.

Most evil teaching # 10: Teachings of torture, enslavement, beheading cruelty, eye-for-eye …..

There is a gigantic tie for the tenth most evil teaching. There are 3,990 teachings of the Quran that are equally evil. All these teachings are immoral depravity. Not being words/teachings of Moral Perfection - the Quran is not Moral Perfection and therefore not from God, therefore Allah is not God but the AntiGod and Muhammad is no prophet. Following is a very small sample of further Quranic depravity.

TORTURE

Quran 22:19-22: "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" "for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods"

SLAVERY

Quran 2.178: "O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement."

You kill one of my slaves, females or free man and I'll kill one of your slaves, females or free man.

BARBARIC CRUELTY

Quran 5:38: "Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done-a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise." 39 "But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful."

EYE FOR EYE

Quran 5:45: "And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed such as wrong-doers."

BEHEADING

Quran 8.12: "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

There are 75 teachings of beheading in Quran.

SLAUGHTERING

Quran-8:67: "It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (Allah insisting Prophet to kill all the prisoners, and should not keep any surrendered prisoners alive until He (Prophet) occupied entire Arabia.)

I read and write Arabic

Argue with the Koran

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So who is the idiot those who can read the Koran or those who side with pre canned liberal stupidity

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Give evidence that it is idiocy

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Has anyone read the Koran?

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