ajeh

I understand where you are coming from. You wanted the piece of mind that your movement is in top notch condition. Really sorry to hear things didn't work out like they should.

@ajeh: Just saw you're in Canada. Shoot The Zigmeister a PM. Maybe he can help you out locally. A great guy and a master watchmaker! They don't come better than him.

Ps: movements that are professionally serviced are best to be adjusted to +6~8 sec in dial up position so you will get +2 in normal day to day wear (if you adjust everything properly e.g. regulator studs, coils etc.)

Thanks for understanding. I read your post "to service or not to service?",It was great post, I enjoyed it. that was reason why I decided to do full movement service and adjustment.

I just want my watch in really good condition. I got -26s in dial up position today, -17s yesterday... interesting right? lol

I will try PM to The Zigmeister, Thanks!

I would ask Vac about sending it back. He's usually pretty easy to work with.

I didnt even try email him since I got this watch because I remember what he said to me " its not gen watch blah blah~ you want perfection blah blah blah, its not swiss movement blah~" I dont want to hear that again.....

I already paid over $70 for shipping, I dont want to spend single penny for this watch.

I was just going to sell my gen pam111, and wear rep watch but I think Im going to have to keep gen watch.

Thank you for your advises, guys!

He probably did as you asked and adjusted it in face down position to 5 seconds of less. That unfortunately doesn't mean you'll get that accuracy in real life. That's why COSC is done in 5 positions over 15 days.with greatest

variation of no more than 10 seconds. And also,

you are expecting COSC timing out of a non-

COSC timepiece.

Yes probably I was expecting cosc timing out of asian movement because thats why I paid for the full movement service and regulation and adjustment!!

Keeping +2s watch was great but I read this post

I tried face down, face up, crown down, crown up, in every position time error seems to get over -15s.

Same here. Asians run as good as Swiss after proper service and adjustment.

Same here. Asians run as good as Swiss after proper service and adjustment.

im really frustrated, Im not sure he actually did proper movement service and adjustment.

If he did proper adjustment, the time error should not be -17s.....

I just cant believe the full movement serviced watch has -17~-20s time error.

how do I actually know he did full movement service? he only gave me some pics of dismantled movement parts.

its just total wasted money.

who did the work

people's favorite VAC!

I remember what he said to me "you have serviced asian movement not a swiss movement."

yes it was my fault, asked him to service asian movement

Before the movement serviced, the time error was +2s, and now it is -17s.......WTF??

I asked the watchsmith to adjust time error around +1~+5, I believe he totally ignored it. Also Im not sure he actually did waterproof test or not.

This watch is just mess, I just feel like wasting money. I learned something here, NEVER pay service fee before the watch get serviced.

i dont think it worth it, there is no actual difference between asin and swiss.. and i think asian movement is pretty good. If i were you, I would get full movement service.

the watch looks great!

which TD??

Next time please put a question mark in the title of your thread.

alright! remember it next time!

My pam doesnt arrive yet!! hopefully next week!

thinking about buying another one soon....Im not sure which one is better.. any advice? always appreciate!

Why would you service the movement?

The Asian Movement, it's brand new.

here is the answer : http://www.rwg.cc/to...ce-my-thoughts/

Thanks guys!

Im still waiting for the shipment!

Im just going to do:

- Full movement service <-- first thing I really want to do, want to use it for 3-5years lol

- CP flattened and lever mods <-- I got my QC pics.. I am not really satisfied with CP....

- Dial and hands touched up and cleaned up if they are dirty or if necessary

- Y Incabloc mod

- waterproof check

Try VAC

I think I should do that! thanks

When my watch arrives, I'm going to send it to watchsmith for mods immediately.

Here is few things Im going to do and I need some advice.

Noob 111N:

- Asian or Swiss swanneck regulated

- Sapphire with NO AR <---- watch already has single AR, removing AR is worth it? try to get close to gen here...advice?

- Cannon pinion polished

- CP flattened and lever mods <------also try to get close to gen..

- Dial and hands vaclumed and touched up

- Relumed dial and hands

- Full movement service

- Y Incabloc mod

- pressure checked for water resistance

Im not trying make rep to gen............... just want to make good looking enjoyable pam111,

so if there is something I dont need to do or I need to add something let me know...Thanks!

You have to try and PM him first. Also note that he is out until late June or early July and is not taking on any new projects at the moment. His PM system may even be turned off. The Zigmeister only takes on projects when his schedule allows to prevent getting over burdened with work. He also has a lot of people contacting him to bid on a project only to back out in the end. He is very, very selective on who he will work with. He doesn't waste his time on people who abuse his time and efforts.

Try PM'ing him first and good luck

you are so kind! thanks!

I tried find "Zigmeister" email address... but I just couldn't find it !!!!

anybody know his email address please let me know

looks ok to me

I should ask one of trusted forum watchsmith to do this... Thanks

hello guys,

Im just about to purchase lovely pam from TD,

they are offering $100-120 movement servicing which includes time accuracy reglation and waterpoofing test etc...

anybody tried this before? is it worth it?