yuandkk33

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I received response from TC, (who had it reviewed by Experia78) saying that a loose screw was the problem. I have since received the watch and it is working perfectly. There was some conversation that went back and forth with TC about what caused this. We were unable to conclude who's fault it was that the movement had issues. I had it modded the moment I got it, but from a reputable person who I really don't think caused the movement issues as that person didn't touch the movement. It's weird there was a screw loose probably jamming the movement in some way.

Either way, I had to replace the stem and crown with a new one cus shortening it did not work and made it difficult to get "bite" into the winding position. It was almost impossible to hand wind it as it would catch the thread and start screwing in.

TC asked for $60 (for new crown and stem) and said he would cover the labor. Overall great experience, great guy who stands behind his product.

Waiting was not fun, but all worth it.

Mods: gen crystal with AR and gen black insert.

correctime- Thank you for summarizing and updating the happenings of this watch. I really appreciate the feedback and attention I've received on this forum.

I have honestly never dropped this watch. It has been shipped to correctime with substantial padding and packaging (same as it originally came to me) and shipped back, but I have never dropped it myself.

I got in touch with TC and he said he has arranged for Experia78 to take a look at my watch. I've been instructed to ship it to him in CA and TC said that he has confidence in him to determine what really is the problem. I hope that he will be able to resolve my issues and I will keep this forum updated about this TC Sub LV. 

I have thought about trying to swap out the movement completely with my own money and with the help the help of other modders but I have decided to pursue the route TC has suggested first as he sold it to me. I am really happy to know that TC is standing by his product.

So I got the stem shortened by 1 thread and now when I unscrew the crown into the winding position and start winding, it would suddenly start to screw back in. This leads me to believe that the stem is too short now. 

I was ok with it not winding very easily as I was going to wear this daily, so I have been wearing it for the past 5 hours with the crown screwed all the way in. 

Today it stopped again just 20 minutes ago with the second hand stuck at the 44 second marker. I'm very sad. I am also unable to restart the movement using the same tapping/winding techniques I did previously.

What else could be wrong with this TC Sub?

I recently purchased a TC sub LV v4 (2836-2 ETA) and after having it in my possession for 1 day, I sent it off to a friend on this forum to have a gen crystal (AR LEC) and gen insert installed. 

It came back with the gen parts and realized that when I screwed the crown all the way in, after about an hour the second hand stopped at the 50 second marker. To get it ticking again, I tapped the watch on my hand and it started moving. I wound it up about 100 times and screwed the crown in all the way and stopped at the 55 second marker this time after about 45 minutes. Did the same steps and stopped at the 15 second marker this time. I have ruled out that the second hand is touching the crystal.

I finally wound up the watch one last time and left the crown in the winding position and it has been going strong for almost 50 hours now. It seems that the watch stops only when the crown is screwed in. 

I was talking to correctime and he mentioned that the problem is likely a long stem and needs to be shortened a thread or two. 

What do you guys think? Any suggestions or similar stories/experience with the TC Sub?

How sure are you that I will recieve the same sub from Josh at PC? I see you have a lot of reps in your sig.

It is the same watch. they get it from the same supplier/factory

 

I will get mine from Josh @ PC.....

Another question I had is that these watches say they have 25J and mike00 said he had a 21J. What is the main difference and how can I get the exact same watch in this review? linK?

Why do http://www.ttw168.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7&products_id=10408

and http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlss00028-114060-2012-nodate-p-13291.html descriptions look identical?

Mike did purchase at trusty

If i order at http://www.1-pc8838.com/, will i get the same Sub No Date, with all the features shown in the pictures on page 1 of this thread? I want to go with Josh, but the beginning of this thread says mike00 purchased at Trusty's.

I hope that the picture on there is outdated/wrong. I am looking forward to receiving the same watch, except no date. 

Wow! As far as I can tell, this should be the exact same one as Josh has on his site as well. But on the pictures on those sites, the case does not look 1:1, since I think the crown guards and lugs are still underdimensioned compared to the pictures you have presented here. Is the picures old, or are there different versions?

 

Look at a GEN CER SUB. The crown guards are very overdimensioned, compared to the older one with non-ceramic bezel. The crown guards on the SUB is also bigger than the crown guard on the GMT-Master II Ceramic, that they used as reference for the old versions of the ceramic sub.

Therefore the recent (older) versions of the Ceramic sub has always had wrong shaped CG's. But this one looks real good, and also the pearl looks more like the GEN, at least as far as I can tell from these pictures. Also the Cer SUB has fatter lugs than the Cer GMT, and this one you have gotten from Trusty seems to have correct shaped lugs as well. Are you sure this is not a GEN you have pictures of here?;-)

 

So is this one (with correct shaped CG) the actual watch you get, if you order this new model from either PC or Trusty, or is it just from Trusty you get this model? I think the pictures from PC looks to have the wrong shape more pointed CG, that used to be the case with the Cer Subs based on the GEN GMT-Master II case that they dissected to make these replications in the past. Funny thing, tough. The Full Gold version of the same watch from PC seems to have correct shape CG on the website pictures, not like the SS version. I reckon they use the same case for both SS and FG, only applying gold plating?

I am debating the same. I think that I will go with the no date because i don't feel like correcting the day at the end of every month. However, I feel like the date cyclops is part of the rolex "bling" so I am still on the fence.