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Limited edition speedy Tuesday. A must have (have ordered it btw)


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if you like the style (but in bigger diameter) and want a legal one: blackout concept did an homage in december. still available http://www.blackoutconcept.com/fr/product/blackstar-h4-vintage-2/

 

Lol.. I guess you do know your champagnes. What would you recommend for pouring down Edge's royal throat then?  

1 Bollinger grande année

2 Dom Pérignon

3 Cristal roederer

second choice (the one you have at home for regular drink)

Ruinart

Laurent Perrier

 

I thought that the Moet is an Elites Lounge exclusive? No? 

Much like the cuban cigars and fanciful magazines? 

in terms of french champagne Moet is far from being a good one

sorry edge to hear that you were robbed

probably on holiday no?

Nice, even if the luminova is biggest tell. How about water resistance with the false He valve? does it need to be modded?

stunning. great great job

best way to be robbed if someone comes in house :-(

just put that price to be number one in the research list...

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infact white looks more like a real, yellow looks fake my2cents

Should not imho

cool

great reshaping skills 

Hi there fitch! (and others potentially interested)

Unfortunately it looks as if this project is cancelled - or at least that it's been put on hold for a substantial amount of time. Reason being that rolli is very tied up with all his other projects that has higher prioritization atm (dials and cases). We did not even get as far as a price quote...

Must apologize for not being much of a communicator or coordinator on this, in the end I'm just a desperate guy looking for a great pvd coating to finish off a grail project of mine (202/a). I cross my fingers that opportunity shows up later to do a later pvd run, but will let rolli get back to me when that might be. Again, sorry if expectations were raised for nothing! Very much appreciated if anyone else has a plan B in mind

considering the gen I have seen or hold in hand they look more like my guns and what we call bronzing aspect than like real pvd as in other watches in fact. Considering that at that time (1993) panerai was an army provider this always make me think that maybe solution is there 

indices material:

 

 

we developed a tritium simulated high grade super luminova color, 10 years burned out look.

rc tritec switzerland analyzed this color and produced it in triple high grade-A super luminova a special color for us.

i could buy the original old stock resin varnish UV820 from rc tritec,  which was still in stock from 1993 and i could buy the rest stock.

 

the tritium resin varnish uv820 is the original which was used for all tritium mixes , and as protection against the radioactivity.

 

all PreV indices are filled with this mixture by swiss rctritec employee by hand with the stylograph  in the typical recessed preV style filling.

 

the preV fgd hands  are also filled by rc tritec with a non matched high grade-A tritium simulated super luminova.

 

R

I know. Just saying that no use getting closer to gen since gen don't glow and it is biggest tell

apart that great job done on dial and hands.

great improvement but luminous dial and hands...

difficult to find  depends on model

http://www.network54.com/Forum/282106

btw, protected by paypal no? so if fake seller will lose everything

normal, not so expensive if you collect gen

You mean a depth gauge or a compass?

yes quite sure in fact

not sure it was on a watch btw

Thanks Kilowattore for your grown up input.

I'm also hacked off with the less than friendly tone in this thread ....I thought RWG was supposed to be the Friendliest Watch Forum on The Planet !

 

As Rolli's "silent' partner on these projects I choose to stay in the background, but there's been a pretty miserable assault on Rolli's motives and character here and that's not on.

I don't control Rolli or try to , neither do I necessarily agree with everything he says or believes. We've had disagreements but understand each other better as a result , that's how partnerships work.

I do know that his desire to make dials is because he is absolutely and totally passionate about Panerai and is about as true a hobbyist you'll find on this forum or any other.

 

This 000 dial was a labour of love for Rolli , not my personal taste as I have ample base dials in my collection and there is only one "King" 201/A as far as logo dials go.

He had the desire and means to do it , so he made a very very limited run and made available to those who wanted it.

 

There's been a few assertions that these are copies of a Noob dial , Asian made dials , large profits being made , people being misled etc etc, but as partner , I invest half of the production costs and have records of every single invoice and payment received so it's time to state a few home truths for those who are bothered to know:

 

- Every single step of the manufacturing of these dials is done in Switzerland , the only parts made in Asia are the Pre-V hands from Helenarou - which I purchased without lume many years ago.

- If you take the money Rolli and I have invested and divided it by the number of dials we have each received from these projects - we have paid more than double per dial than what we sell them for !

- I conservatively estimate that Rolli has invested over 1000 hours of his own time in the last 12 months to make these projects a reality and paid meticulous attention to detail every step of the way.

- In each production run , despite the highest standards and precautions, there are dials with flaws , so on these very small runs, the yield is far less than expected and as such there has not been enough dials to make a profit.

- All the money that has been raised from sales , has been re-invested in the next dial production, which is why these dials are made WITHOUT pre-orders and requests for deposits from people. We actually don't want to take anyone's money until we're satisfied we have a dial ready so pay all the costs upfront ourselves.

 

As FGD , I made hundred of dials and hands for the members of this forum and due to my inferior production methods was to able to offer these are far lower prices than Rolli's.

In the end though, poor yields , production problems , delays and the deluge of PM's and emails you receive made me call it a day. I just could not get the standard of dial I and others wanted this way.

Rolli took up the gauntlet and used his engineering and business skills to build a network of high end Swiss contacts and asked if I wanted to go into partnership with him.

The results are what you see today.

 

So there you have it .

 

For those of you who have been great supporters , bought dials , gave advice but most of all enjoyed these projects , thank you.

 

For those who want to b1tch and moan about someone's "charity" work then try Jack Warner , he's got a lot more questions to answer.......

 

FGD

well said

This was a limited run that sold out quickly last year. I love DSN as a parts supplier, but you are better off with an old Unitas pocket watch movmement for a Pre-V build. Just the way the Panerai Gods intended.

Well done and true advice

maybe it will since production stop and imho having both in hand 372 is more sexy on sunny days