ghoststar

Just another note. Not sure if this is universal though (those others who bought the XVII with bracelet please chime in).

The micro adjustment (the corrugated piece in the middle of the clasp underside) doesn't work. 

The bar that is supposed to hold the corrugated piece in place isn't on tight enough to keep it from sliding out every time. So basically, the most convenient detail about the IWC pilot bracelet is negated in this rep bracelet. 

OK. Just got the XVII with bracelet with today's mail. 

The rep bracelet does NOT fit the gen. Not only are the spring bar holes drilled in a slightly different location, the attachment link (the curved link of the bracelet that attaches to the watch) is too wide to even fit.

LOL relax buddy

What you said regarding your experience happens in the rep world. It's best not to trust the worker bees after all it's not Nordstom's. Even at Nordstrom's you can't trust the low level staff's eagerness to perform their work in a manner which meets everyone's expectations. And like Nordstrom's I bet Angus would stand up and help you out anyway.

Through the fora you get access to the actual TDs like Toro, Angus, Rochest and they are the ones you should ask regarding your purchases. Don't assume that some worker bee in china with broken English can interpret your needs and questions and respond with western expectations of business integrity. That's being a newb or naive or both. It happened to me too as a newb and things still happen to me as a more experienced member. Just part of the learning curve. Too many people expect the dark side to work exactly like the legit world in which they live.

PS buy the seller is not a WUS trademark. It's an internet thing. Way before WUS and extends to our hobby too.

Just sayin'

I see your point. Just wish the PT reps would stop giving me answers they have no knowledge to answer in the first place. I submitted the question concerning the bracelet's fit on PT's email question box. Then I received an email with a very clear YES to the fit. Now who the HELL would go and do that without absolute knowledge? And it wasn't a case of translation issues, because the reply was written in a full sentence stating clearly that the rep bracelet would indeed fit the gen watch. I get that only Angus knows for sure, but when his employees start handing out wrong info in order to promote further sales, then Angus needs to be somewhat accountable for this BS. 

Prior to this, I ended up buying a watch that was posted as IN STOCK, but turned out to be out of stock once I paid. Then they suggested another watch, which I reluctantly agreed to, only to find out a couple days later that this second option (which THEY suggested) was also out of stock. Then when I finally ask for a refund, they have the nerve to suggest a third option instead. This whole ordeal took 3 weeks to settle, ultimately resulting with a refund, and ONLY because Francis got involved. 

PT is in shambles. Their operations suck. I left them and went with another TD and so far, am very happy. 

Sadly you did not ask Angus. He would not lead you astray. You should have known better. Yes you can blame PT but at the same time yourself too, if you are honest with yourself and not naive. Buy the seller.

Yes, but Angus puts his name on the Puretime company brand. He should not hire people who offer guarantees willy-nilly. As the head of that company, he needs to take some accountability for what his employees do and say. A guarantee from a company rep (even a lowly one) is a guarantee backed by the company, in this case, Angus's company. So, Cromag, get off your high horse and stop regurgitating oft-repeated WUS cliches such as, "Buy the seller," as though doing so affords you any sort of cache.

watcher: I am interested to know if your bracelet fits the gen. Two weeks ago you had an order on its way, and you were very adamant and positive that the bracelet would fit the gen. (You were so sure you called me out on it!) If it does fit, I am ordering one for my gen xvii, the whole watch is cheaper than the bracelet alone from iwc.

Please let us all know, I'm sure you and I are not the only ones with gens who are tired of the stock iwc strap. The bracelet looks much sharper!

Thanks!

I am the one with the gen XVII. The online customer rep at Puretime guaranteed that the rep bracelet would fit the gen. But from what markiemark has posted, this seems to be misinformation. Puretime has repeatedly fed me misinformation that got me to make purchases I ended up not wanting. I guess I'm a fool for having trusted them again. Anyway, I'll be receiving the rep bracelet within a week, so I'll let everyone know. 

Just received an email from Puretime's Sales department stating very clearly and succinctly that, "Yes. It will fit the gen."

I have no way of knowing if it will fit a gen as I don't have one but previous other rep iwc's I have had did fit so I see no reason this won't.

So did you get yours yet? Even if you can't tell us if it will fit the gen, please let us know your impression of the overall quality of the bracelet. Nothing too in-depth. Just a few sentences. Thanks. 

PS: The "IWC" engraving on the clasp seems to be way too shallow. Please comment on this part in your assessment.

You are wrong! The rep bracelet did not fit the previous rep case so the factory remade the case as the pin holes were in the wrong place.

I would imagine this bracelet will fit the gen case.

I have still not received my watch. Very slow service from puretime this time around!!

Watcher, once you get your watch, could you find out if it fits the gen and PM me?

I hope I'm wrong, don't want to be giving bad news. Ask Angus-- it was a discussion I think where to others' surprise, he stated it would not fit, which is why it stuck in my mind.

Shoot. I guess if Angus said so, that pretty much sinks my hopes. 

I think someone said that this rep case and bracelet does not fit gen XVII, the lug width and pin position are different.

Hmm. Thanks for the info. Although, it would be odd if the lug width wasn't the same as the gen since this watch seems to be the V2 version (just with a bracelet in place of the leather strap), and the V2 definitely has the same lug width as the gen...

Man, I hope this bracelet fits the gen.

Someone please give me some good news!

Anyone have any idea if this bracelet will fit the gen Mark XVII?