ya, it's pretty awful. but at the same time, that's how i started ... a cheap canal st. rep for $40. i instantly fell in love with panerai and now have many nice reps as well as a genuine. have fun with it polo147ax and i'll bet you anything, you'll purchase a nice rep within six months. and when i say anything, i mean nothing. lol.
just a follow up as i went to the movie last night with my wife and a couple of friends. very funny by the way and i highly recommend it! it was easy to tell the watch in question is in fact a white dialed panerai. but because it was on a bracelet, my guess is that it was a pam 051 but who can say for sure? again, this movie is worth the money ... check it out!
that is one of the ways to tell the difference between the two. the rep straps have a leather keeper while the genuines have a rubber keeper. i hope this helps.
sounds like you're looking for a luminor marina from the historic collection, not a base model. the only one they make with a solid caseback is the 005 (logo). i'd go for the 111 if i were you. i'm not sure who has the best rep out there but that is a realistic panerai to own as the genuine retails for around $4,000. much more believable than say a special edition panerai for over $10,000. i hope this helps.
lol, here is the story of the four black seals. the 183g was what first drew my father to panerai and was also one of his first reps. after owning it for a while, he decided on an 098 for his first genuine. about a year later i was able to get him a great deal on a brand new genuine 183h. after getting the 183h he simply wanted to compare it with the rep so he went ahead and bought one of those. that gives him three 183's. the other 183g i received in a trade and is from my personal collection. we both own some genuine watches now and will eventually be selling off some of our rep collection. i am only into panerai's but my fathers total collection is pretty sick. i'll try to get some more pictures the next time i visit ... he has a little bit of everything!
p.s. estaban was right about the genuine 091 (1st row, 4th over). and after my explanation above you now know that the 098 (2nd row, 1st one) and 183h (3rd row, 4th over) are also genuine. that leaves one more genuine in the group and that is the 220 (2nd row, 4th over) owned by my brother. all the best.
i recently visited my family back in canada and we put our panerai collection together. here's what we have ... a 048, 049, 050, 091, 098, 113, 165, 220, 183g, 183g, 183h & 183h (don't ask). it is a mix of oem and faux-em. can you tell the difference?
thanks for looking and all the best!
hey paulm, here is one more thing to consider. panerai recently had a price increase that you can see from the 2006 price list and the 2007 price list. it doesn't matter if the watch is old or new stock ... all watches were effected. so, unless the watch in question is a "j" series, i personally would refuse to pay more than the 2006 price. they are certainly not ripping you off by selling you old stock for a new price as companies have every right to raise their prices ... but at the same time i wouldn't feel that i got the best deal. just my $0.02. good luck in the hunt and trust me when i say ... there is no better feeling than the genuine.
i put my genuine 091 on a rubber strap for the beach this weekend and decided to leave it on for the work week. i snapped these pictures yesterday. all the best.
nice watch! you need lug size 24 x 22 and whatever length suits you best (regular length is 115 x 75). if you really want to show your new pam some love, consider the two oem panerai straps i have for sale here. i bought these for my genuine pam 091 but didn't like the look over the bracelet. they retail for around $150.00 each at authorized dealers. all the best. chris.