Jb boin

And without any movement shots i would spend that much

Havent updated for a long time the review, in fact the rotor is the weak point of the watch imo (ugly and in my case the ball bearing is not totally flat, it caused the disagrement but after cleaning/re-oiling the bearing the rotor is moving way better and its less noisy but still noisy) and also the datewindow/datewheel, especially on the black version, on the grey dial the contrast is not as important with the white datewheel.

Also keep in mind that its a pretty big watch, even the Mont Blanc Timewalker Chrono fits better on a small wrist and it seems as big as a PO Chrono (45mm) but its definitely not the same shape so it doesnt fit the same.

After 'aging' a little the strap it feels/looks a bit better but its still not as good as a good leather strap (compared to a Bob calf leather strap for example).

hello guys, i dont know very much what could be happend on RWI, so i dont mess and say anything about that. but i think its only fair that lani wants to clear that here in a fair and square disussion.

i mean lani, lani represents the truth so its only normal that he want to clear that out, cause something went wrong there...thats for sure..

and you RWI guys should be realy happy that lani had the balls to start that cause from you nobody did

see you all soon guys

denz who started his day with awsome news

Is it satirical?

I hope cheaper 21j versions will be released because i really like it but i wouldnt pay that much for a quite imprecise non-chrono rep

Updated today with the modifications i made on the RWI post last month and by explaining what is the origin of the rotor noise

In fact i figured out how to change the date

There is a small pusher, i was thinking it was a HE valve but its a for setting the date and it works perfectly, i have modified it (among many other things) on my review on RWI but unfortunately i dont seem to be able to edit my post here

Thanks, i wonder how i could edit my message, i dont have any edit button

Thanks

If an admin thinks the topic would fit better in the IWC area, he can feel free to move it

Brand: IWC

Model: Portuguese Automatic 7 Days (5001)

Movement: Asian 23j 21600bph

Crystal: Sapphire with AR (double sided)

Original Seller: PureTime

Price: 160-180$ (price excluding shipping and depending on the seller)

Thanks for wizardtiti on RWI who sent me this watch, i had to make a review because i really think this watch needs one as nobody ever talked about it and the rep seems pretty new (not sure about that)

Pictures: I made many pictures of it unfortunately my camera is a compact one that doesnt fit to do macro but i tried to do my best

You can see photos in full size here (there are way more pictures than in this page)

And here you can see pictures of the gen

First Impression: To make short, my opinion for now (after 1 day with it) is that watch is wonderful with a nice AR and transparent caseback, the dial (i really love the tall metal hour markers and the dial background that makes me think of anodised aluminium on bright light and not simple paint) and the hands are a true beauty with no flaws and the case quality looks quite nice.

Comparing to the genuine: Well... the most important flaws are the movement (its normal, we cant make a 21/23j looks like a 44j ) especially with the bad quality rotor that look like chromed metal and not brushed and the fact that is definitively doesnt seems to be correctly greased (i talk about it later).

The easiest to spot flaw is the white datewheel instead of the black one (it would be really nicer with a black one) and the date window is also not correct because there is a cyclop glass on the datewindow (that is in fact hard to spot).

I am not totally sure but it looks that the gen doesnt have a date change pusher on the side as the rep have one (but it looks nice and its rather discrete).

Gen:

Size and feel: It is a little bit thicker (without counting the crystal, if we do its almost the same on the center of the watch) and case size is almost the same than my 2 years old 108$ Omega SMP GMT (A21J) but it feels bulkier because the bracelet doesnt fit my wrist and the crystal is almost totally flat so the watch looks like a block on my small wrist compared to the SMP that is thin in the bezel, there is no rotating bezel (and so the dial and hands are bigger which looks nice) and thin hands makes it more discrete. And you can see through crystal from any position (you can see it on the crown picture).

In fact it doesnt fit my tiny wrist as the SMP and it finally doesnt fit better than a Montblanc Timewalker Chrono (A7750) (what i tought at first). I think its mainly because of the bracelet and clasp that doesnt fit really nicely my wrist and also because the caseback of the IWC is bigger than the two others and as the bracelet doesnt tightens my wrist enough the watch looks loose on it.

The IWC is way lighter than the SMP but i cant compare a diving watch with a metal bracelet and a dress watch with a leather one

The movements: The rotor is making enormous noise and i can feel it when it moves fast (i had the same feeling/noise on a 40$ Daytona in the past), in comparison, i dont feel or hear the rotor of my SMP.

I recorded the sound it produce (not the best recording but i did it with my iPhone) : http://plusquenet.net/watches/rotor.m4a

After almost 1 month of use the rotor movements became even worse with more noise i have to manually rewind the watch as i dont wear it while sleeping and as it doesnt autorewind correctly.

I finally managed to find what was the problem with the rotor, its that the rotor seems to touch the case on some spot; after 2 months and a half, there is less fricition but the problem is that now there is metal dust on the watch

So i ordered a tool to open the case and i will try to clean it

For the rest, as i am not an expert i cant say much thinks except that the power reserve works fine (about 2 days ~=7hours for 1day marker) and that the watch looks to be manually rewinding quite fast.

Also, the rotor finish is quite horrible and the decorative metal brushing doesnt look as nice as on my brother Montblanc Timewalker Chrono (A7750) but its still very decent.

The Crown: The crown is really nice and is not mirrored as with some cheap IWC reps.

I cant operate the crown as i dont have much fingernails (a bit anoying as i can without problems on my SMP for example), i have to use a little screwdriver or my teeth (at least it cant easily scratch case) to open it and i havent found a way to change date by itself as the crown is not with 2 positions like the SMP (if you have the solution tell me)

The strap: Honestly, it doesnt feel very nice, its definitively not soft and it looks and feel like plastic (had the same kind of feeling as on my

Well... Rolex have Tudor, isnt it?

And for the Replex idea with Asian or Swiss versions its the same idea as with Sandoz / Sandoz HK / Sandoz Singapore http://www.pmwf.com/Watches/WATCHSALES/SandozSingaporeSalesTable.htm

Item location: Rolex World, United States

Some Chinese low priced Rolex :