southcoast68

At one time not long ago, using the 3133 was possible, see here; See very clear macro photos of the two watches shown in that post, they are Soviet Poljot 3133s' (see Poljot logo to the left of the balance). Now, the current case being offered by Spin/DW is probably made a little different to only fit a V7734, but someone out there had these available at some point. The main difference between the 3133 and 7734 is the movement's thickness (almost 1mm thicker for the 3133) and that thickness is on the dial side making the stem to case tube not align properly. So, the cases that fit a 3133 would have to be deeper by about 1mm to have the thicker movement fit and work. I Pm'ed the OP back then to get info on what the source was for these and never got a reply. I doubt that they are a myth since 3133's have been used before in other reps (although not very common) and there may very well be a way to machine an extra 1mm from the inside of the case to have a 3133 fit. Then of course you would have to deal with the crappy looking date wheel of the 3133 or possibly make an overlay for it. Anyway you look at it, its still more cost effective to get a V7734 and use the Spin/DW case as it comes, or for that matter, contact Spin and order one finished direct from him. Cheers

Nice video Hodinkee has there, let's hope they remembered to take the Daytona out of the MB's grill before going for another blast down the road Gees, it must be nice to have money Cheers

Sending prayers and positive energy to you and yours, hang in there. Take care, sc68

A friend of mine once said "there is an ass for every seat". Apparently that particular ass found a $6700 seat just right for them. "A fool and his money......" you know the rest. Cheers

Yes, it is a documentary that came out this year to commemorate their 40th. Its called "Rush, Beyond the Lighted Stage", check it out, its real good. Cheers

You were a LOT more polite with them than I would have ever been!! Screw 'em.

I'd like to add to this the following; when viewing the tutorials and pictures of movement tear down, cleaning and re-assembly, keep in mind one simple thing - these parts are small!!! I feel it is often the case when looking at clear macro photos that one could think "gee that seems like it would be fun", but trust us, movement work is not for the faint of heart and a 7750 is not for the strong of heart at times. Take the advice of many here that have said to send the watch to qualified hands as dealing with these smaller than small parts can prove to be frustrating at times, even to those who have done it before. If you think that movement servicing is something you will eventually segway into, get some cheap junk movements and parts (form ebay, flea market, etc.) and practice on those. Take an on-line course on movement repair and get a good set of tools and develop the required touch in working on these watches. Learning to do some things yourself is always good to gain a better understanding and respect for the hobby, but be prepared, things will break sometimes, but its all part of the game. Now with that said, if you ever do find yourself with an already dead 7750 chrono, do yourself a favor, and begin taking it apart. If its dead already and you do not have the desire to have it fixed, this will be a good way of seeing first hand some of the near microscopic screws, springs and levers contain therein. When things basically start to fall apart, you may think "gee it seemed like it would have been fun, but I'm glad I sent my watches out for servicing instead of trying to do it myself". I know this because I had a dead A7750 from a Daytona that I was probably going to chuck anyway, and started in with my tools, a short while later I had gained even more respect for the folks who can take these creatures apart and get them back together again. Good luck with the hobby!! Cheers

If your question had anything to do with identifying a rep versus a gen then forget it. Those folks seem to have little to no tolerance for such discussion. They mostly seem to be the "hey look what I got and look what I spent on it" kind of crowd. My apologies to anyone here who is also a member there, you may not agree, but that's just the way I noticed things are over at watchuseek. Cheers

I would want that time spent BACK!!

Thanks for the link, very interesting! This goes a long way to dispel the myths that Rolex watches are built by old world magical craftsmen that live in a hollowed out Oak tree somewhere in a Swiss forest. Cheers

Great thread with good opinions all around!! I doubt this scenario would ever happen especially knowing that Rolex has always serviced a watch and replaced parts that they deemed not to be "like new", vintage dials, hands and crystals that were in perfectly good condition have been known to be replaced since their objective is to bring the watch back to "new" condition. Even if Rolex had stockpiles of vintage parts, they sure would not make them available to anyone for cheap. That folded link bracelet would be more on the order of $800-$1000, the faded red sub dials would be stripped and refinished before being re-used. That's just their way, go new and make the old used up parts go away. Here is another scenario, and this one will probably make everyone here squirm. Rolex has been all about upholding their good name, tradition, and their status symbol image. That does not fit into a world of vintage Rolex watches selling on the cheap. Sure they may not care about their vintage products as much as they care to sell new watches, but the world having common knowledge that any used Rolex can be had for just a couple hundred could certainly have an effect on new watch values, after all, one way to charge $6k for a new Sub and get away with it is to demonstrate that the watch you buy new today will hold its value for life, maybe even increase in value. So, if all the heavy hitting Rolex collectors world wide were to suddenly liquidate their collections, thus making the values fall to the same level as say, a vintage Seiko, that would hurt the Rolex image. There would be no point in paying so much for a status symbol that no one cares for anymore. What would they do? Who has virtually unlimited resources to buy up all the vintage Rolex watches left? Rolex themselves! Imagine a program where you get good solid trade in for your old Rolex, then Rolex takes the old watch and destroys it completely! They employ folks that go to pawn shops, watch shows, go on Ebay, etc., buying up all they can for the purpose of destroying it, thereby ensuring, once and for all, THE only way to get a Rolex, is to buy it from them. Of course, if there is no longer any interest in vintage, would there be much interest in new Rolex watches, enough to sustain the brand and the company? Wild scenario huh, Muuuhahahahahahaha, ok everybody, sleep tight . Well, maybe that scenario is a bit out there (maybe not ). More likely would be that all Rolex watches will enjoy some form of collectability and value. There will always be some folks out there who will want to collect and be able to pay the necessary price for admission. Even if vintage Rolex values fall through the floor, the name, and its history will continue for a long time to come. Sure, collector prices of Ferrari have fluctuated over the years, but there are still enthusiasts around to keep them going, same with Rolex. Although, it would be nice to see prices come down to a stable, reasonable level for all vintage watches, so that all who wish to own the real thing can do so. And that's what it's all about isn't it? Buy and collect what you like and don't sweat its future value, realize you're interest in watches and that they are for you and you're enjoyment. Prices of tulip bulbs may have taken a beating at some point in history, but the flower itself is still beautiful, and that beauty carries a value all its own. Cheers

Everyone in this world thinks they are an expert in something . As for me, the older I get the less I know Cheers

Much prayer and positive energy to you and yours TeeJay, all the best brother!! Take care

+3 They are also using this new modded 7750 for the Zenith Defy Extreme reps (horrible looking watch). For both the Omega PO chrono and the Zenith, they are advertised as having a "A7750 with modded subdial spacing, full working chrono", and their pictures look real good to me. Fransisco did a writeup of this new movement here; Of course, for the PO and the Zenith, it suffers from a sunken date, which would be no problem for a Daytona which has no date function to begin with. Also, using this movement will not solve the problem of the case being too thick for the Daytona, but I could live with that as long as the rest of the watch is executed with the fit, finish and dial quality of the latest seconds at six models. There is NO REASON that this movement could not be used to build us a better Daytona (as well as offer other reps of the vintage Zenith and Movado ElPrimeros as well as the Panerai chronos that use the ElPrimero (PAM 74 and 122). If there are reasons they could not offer this new movement in more products, I'd love to hear them. I am pretty much out of the watch hobby right at the moment, but I'd come back in a hurry if this new movement were offered in a solid, well built, rep ElPrimero Daytona. So how about it? Put more energy and effort in a rep that folks are asking for, or continue to clog the marketplace with watches that don't sell. Yeah, I know we are a small part of the rep business model, yadda, yadda. But take a look at what has been done in just the last couple years. Submariners that from WM9 that are just about un-distinguishable from the real deal, watches like the DEEP SEA and the PLOPROF, watches that have very proprietary case designs being repped with amazing detail, vintage dive reps being offered for less than $250 from main line dealers that have amazing detail as well, and finally a vintage Explorer II that looks the part. I gotta feeling that this will go nowhere, it seems as though the rep industry is only interested in selling us bad looking reps that are dependable, or great looking reps that will not last when it comes to the Daytona. Kinda looks like the rep industry wants to keep rep Daytonas in the franken relm, expensive to build for most, keeping ANY good Daytona rep as exclusive to own as the genuine one. OK, rant over, stepping off of soap box....for now... Cheers everyone

Hi all Apologies if this has been shown before, but I thought it was cool and thought I'd share it. Funny, I don't see any "old world craftsmanship" here, looks kind of modern and hi-tech . Enjoy

While I'll agree that the flaming on that thread was un-called for, and while I would have personally moved on without saying anything, I do understand the feelings expressed. Some folks buy certain watches for the wrong reasons. If you're telling me that this person bought the watch after being on the waiting list, decided it was not their cup of tea, or could not afford to keep it, then selling for the same price to recover the funds would be expected. Tacking on an additional 600 pounds, just because they think they can, is bad form, and is usually done by someone who is more interested in flipping for profit than in the watch itself. Calling someone out in the interest in protecting others from a bad deal is well understood, but anyone looking to buy any new luxury watch should make their first stop at the AD, and then research the desired model, in short, do their homework like all of us do and not just buy something on-line just because they want it "hot and now". The buying public will decide the selling price of that watch, but I do hope the seller gets stuck with that one for a while. Next time, they will think twice about trying to stick it to an on-line community who are supposed to support one another in a common interest. My .02 Cheers Everyone

Hi all I have been expecting an Ebay purchase to arrive via USPS from California to me in Florida (non watch related) that has been sent using "Media Mail". It has been accepted by USPS on July 22, 2010 and I still have not received it. Does anyone else have experiences with "Media Mail"? From what I have read on-line, "MM" is very unpredictable as well as being very cheap, but almost a month? I am wondering whether I need to ask for my money back for the purchase, or to see if my post office can track it down somehow. Any insight is much appreciated. Cheers

I'm in central Florida and I saw a coral snake in my back yard the other morning!! Be careful out there!! Cheers

I believe Clarkson once wrote "the only thing in the world worse than a fake Rolex is a real one".

Hi all Apart from this being a hilarious bit from Top Gear, it clearly shows that Clarkson wears an Omega Planet Ocean. Anyway, just thought I'd share it. Cheers

Since January, I have lost about 40 pounds, so now I wear my watches rather loosely . Cheers

I have always had a "love/hate" relationship with this brand (speaking for genuine); Love - their design (although, I'd agree with most on the unappealing look of their newest big case designs, even though I wear a DSSD while I type this ). I also always loved their logo, that little coronet along with the word Rolex and its font style, to me, was really meant to be on the dial of a watch. Hate - their snotty, arrogant attitude toward their customers. Periodic price increases on their products just because they can (or think they can). Discontinued support for older models, even though they have been basically producing the same thing for that past 40 years or so. Basically riding on the success of the products that their forefathers created in order to keep up appearances of status, tradition and quality and thereby charging 10x or more for their current products. Artificially raising the price of stainless steel models by limiting their production, thereby convincing customers to buy more expensive two tone models on the spot, or get put on a waiting list for years to get what they really want, and wind up paying more for the privilege of waiting for what is essentially a plain steel watch. Whether you love them or hate them, you have to admit one thing, they are still the most copied watch in the world, and gens could almost still be used as currency in some parts of the world. They must be doing something right. Cheers

Sounds way too good to be true

I was thinking along these same lines myself, but TeeJay beat me to it We are probably putting more thought into this than what Rolex would at this point Now some thoughts of my own; 1. I like the long second hand, really unconventional, and that's what is good about it. The only addition I can think of would be a small arrow head at the tip. I can see the importance of having a second hand so it confirms that the watch is actually running at a clance (something that watches with subsidiary seconds do not do well with at times). 2. I agree that dial #4 is the best of the lot, still simple to read, but offers more information at a glance. It would be important to have the second hand reach out to the seconds track, the minute hand to reach out to the minute markers, the hour hand would be tricky to accurately display the hours since it is much shorter. Speaking of hands, IMO, the use of hands similar to Omega Planet Ocean hands would work real good since they offer a distinct arrow pointing to a marker. A set of those hands in white with lume in the center ala 1655 would be my idea. 3. As far as indicating the am/pm, this will probably require using a movement other than what we find in a Rolex, or Rolex rep, but some watches have a "day-night" indicator on the dial, see picture below; This may require actually taking the movement from the Vostok to use in this project watch. Another idea would be to use orange lume on the am side of the dial, and bluish lume on the pm side of the dial. That idea may be too much for you, just thinking outside of the box Cheers

MqQueen never owned an Explorer II as far as anyone knows, and as far as what he wore in films, there is only information on him wearing either his own Submariner or a TAG Monaco. Collectors are using his name to artificially increase the price of this model as a collectible. This is MHO until there is proof he actually owned one. As far as this new rep, it looks real good for the price, and nobody here has yet to mention one real improvement made, the minute and hour hands are a lot closer in thickness to what they should be. As far as the lume color, too yellow for me, however there are gens out there that have yellowed lume similar to this. I think the photo processing for Josh's website has done this rep a dis-service, and we have seen this before. FYI - Oliver Shepard (trans-global expedition), apparently wore a 1655 with a GMT Master dial fitted to it, so that kinda tells you just what people thought of the 1655 dial's readability. Cheers