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Hello mead, can I ask you which crown size did you go for? 

Thanks all! Things are much clearer now. Glad I built this thread

One last question guys,

I just found this 116234 rep on intime. It's said to have a SA3135 clone where I can swap parts to gen. Will this also work (in the case that I didn't go for the DJ 41)?

Ahhh I see. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll have a look at it.

26 minutes ago, rene said:

But why not buy a BP DJ 41 with Rolex clone. This model accept gen dial and crystal.

Datejust 41 is 39.5mm, I believe? I intend to go for 16014 / 16234 model which has the case diameter of 36mm (and the dial diameter of 28mm).

So I don't think Datejust 41 will accept the dial of those model? Am I right or am I wrong?

7 hours ago, docthor said:

To get the dial fit onto a rep movement you have to literaly destroy the dial (well...at least it's value since the dial feet have to be removed)...are you really prepared for this...you don't sound like you are...

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Will I need to be removing the dial feet if the movement is a clone 3135 with exact dimension?

47 minutes ago, cpd2186 said:

I would say buy the watch and enjoy it. Continue to read here on the forum for another month or so. This will help you realize it is not easy to mod. You will screw things up as everyone has done. Then if you still want to change the dial , you can attempt yourself or have someone else do it for you. Don't be in a rush, enjoy the forum and the hobby and have fun. Welcome!

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Hello, nice to meet you and thank you for the advice. I know that it is not easy and admire all of you who have not only the knowledge but also the courage to do so. The thing is I can never be satisfy with a rep. There has to be something wrong. And as my budget is not enough for me to attain the unattainable rolex, which has always been my dream watch, I decided to build one. Since I've been waiting for so long now, I think I'm prepared to mess up. 

For now, I think I would not get that rep because the size is just wrong. Will find one that the size is right, maybe buy just the case so as to save money for the problems that may occur and will research more as you suggested!

Thank you

This is the one I'll go for. It is 36mm x 44mm x 13mm. Which means everything is right except the thickness (gen is 11mm). Will this cause problem (i.e. for crown)?

I found someone suggested in a thread that it's easier to buy a rep watch and mod it from there.

The model I (finally) intend to go for is 16014 or maybe 16234. As I want a Datejust and don't want to make things more complicated by using a Pie Pan dial and having to chop its feet.

Also, being as inexperienced as I am and a girl who never really handle any tools in my entire life, I doubt my ability to put everything together. 

But I think I can remove dial and attach a new one. 

So I'm thinking of purchasing Silix rep and replace the dial with gen one. Then go on to replacing with gen crown, gen bracelet, and so on.

Is it a good idea? Or will I face many complications as I do?

30 minutes ago, horologist said:

 

what do you mean with non quickset 2836?  This movement is a rapid date change.

 

I have used a 1570 movement from a genuine 1500 Date Rolex as a donor in a 18k gold Turnograph and was left with a nice SS case.

 

I got a lower beat eta 2783 to fit inside the 1500 case and worked well.  Th beat rate isn't exactly ideal for this vintage but it was a good stem alignment match. It is important that the height of the movement and the stem hole line up with the case.  If you are using a genuine 1601 case, this is the 36mm version of the Date 1500 which used the same 1570 movement, so I would be inclined to wager on a 2783 to do the trick in your 1601 case. These movements are very well priced on ebay and in my opinion also very under rated.  I actually like it better than both 2824 and 2836 as it is the older school eta. I am not sure if a 2836 movement would fit in a 1601 case even though it is approximately the same thickness as the 2783.  Main concern is the stem lining position, but in the even that it would, it would  be a higher beat which would not really blend in with the style of watch. It would be very much like trying to fit a sapphire crystal on a 5512 milsub. Good luck!!

Thank you for the reply!

What I meant was is there any differences between a non quickdate and a quick date case.

I just have no clue if a non quick date requires special case or not....

And thank you for the extra info on the movement. I think 2783 is better like you said in terms of bph. The problem is I already found hands, a case, basically almost everything for 2836 (guess maybe because it's easier to find).

Now I'm trying to learn how to clip the feet of dial, the adapter / movement ring....  so hopeless

26 minutes ago, Revere said:

It looks like the website says the cases accept 28mm dial. 

 

looking at a few ebay listings (search "Rolex Datejust 1601 28mm Black Index Dial for 36mm Non-Quick Set Watch Models") it looks like the diameter on a gen dial is 28mm.

 

If that is correct, then you are fine.

 

What movement are you intending on using? If non-gen (eta 2836, for example), you will have to clip the dial feet and attach the dial using dial dots. Either that or modify the base plate of the movement to accept gen dial feet (this is notably more difficult). It's likely the 2836 will need a movement ring. Knowing raffles, the case probably comes with the movement.

Thank you so much for the reply. It seems that I've just asked something very silly. (yes 28mm dial should fit a case that accepts 28mm).

Yes, I'm intending on using eta 2836 movement. I've seen many threads mentioning cutting the dial feet, but no one seems to mention how to do so... (or I might missed it)

I wonder is it a clip to make it shorter or a clip to make it thinner? And for the dial dots, how can I know which size to choose from?

Thank you so much in advance.

Hello all (again)

Sorry for being such a pain in the butt by asking so many questions. 

Promise that once I gather enough knowledge (which would probably be no more than that of yours) I'll be sharing my knowledge as well.

But for now, I have some questions...

I am wondering if I could fit a gen Datejust 1601 dial into a 36mm made for ETA 2836 case? [intend to buy from Rafflesdial]

And if so, will i need a spacer / movement ring to get everything into place?

I found some threads about 1601 franken but couldn't get a hold of the writer.

So, I really want your experienced guidance.

Thank you so much in advance.

Hello, 

hope you don't mind, I'd like to join in as ask a question here so as not to create a new thread. 

If i were to build a 1601 datejust non quickset, presumably using the 2836 movement. Does the case need to a special one (apart from being a case for 2836) for "non quickset"? Or it can just be any case that'll fit the 2836? 

Thank you 

Thank you both for the reply!

@HaydenM your build is marvellous

Hello all,

Nice to meet you. This is my first thread on this site.

After reading and gathering information, I'm interested in starting my own project to build a mod 1016 (is that too ambitious?).
My objective is to build it for under $600. So I came up with two alternatives to build it and would like to ask you which direction should I take.

First:

Buy a rep 1016 

- Asian 23J Automatic Movement
- Solid316L case
- Scratchproof sapphire

- Deployant clasp

I don't really like the dial so I think I'll:
--> replace with yuki dial (but it says it'd only fit 1560/1570 or ETA 2824-2 / 2836. So I'm not sure about this)

---> or if possible can i replace the movement with the ETA 2824-2 (is it the same size as Asian 23J?)

Second:

Do everything from scratch

- Yuki 1016 dial

- Yuki 7206 bracelet
- Seagull ETA 2824-2 movement

For this direction I don't know where to get the case / bazel / crown...

Please advice an amateur like me. 

Thank you so much in advance.