ILLEST Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Need one last piece od advice.I have settled on the fact I need the 111H and 183H.To that end I feel the way for me to go is with either PT or EDDIE.Can you guys sight any differences in the pieces these two guys carry or are they identical? Thankyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 If you are based in the EU go with PT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 They are not always identical and several of EL's PAM's are different from the norm especially the ones that have superlume and AR crystals - the dial and hands are not as good (sorry Eddie). PT I know carries the standard type that all the dealers have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 Not wanting to detour you, but have you looked at the Davidsen 183H he's advertising with superlum? Very nice....also, he's selling a pvd 111, so I suspect that you could get that from him in either pvd or regular version.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babola Posted August 30, 2006 Report Share Posted August 30, 2006 (edited) Need one last piece od advice.I have settled on the fact I need the 111H and 183H.To that end I feel the way for me to go is with either PT or EDDIE.Can you guys sight any differences in the pieces these two guys carry or are they identical? Thankyou Eddie Lee now stocks an updated version of PAM111H with Swiss ETA 6497 with CDG bridges and swan neck regulator (cosmetic, non-operable). The case is 1:1, much better in finish and quality than 111G which I sold to get the 111H. It also comes with sapphire crystal with AR coating (nice blue hue), correct serial number on caseback, correct OFFICINE PANERAI font on the caseback rim etc. The movement is very nice however lacklustre compared to the original, the blue engraved officine panerai on the CDG bridge is still wrong size and font, but I believe this is left intentionally, and don't think it will change any time soon. My watchmaker had a look at the movement and said - perfect, no oiling or servicing required at this stage. He did have to take the bridgess off, but didn't charge me for work since he was just interested to see what's the current replica quality out there... Dial is also 1:1 now, dial lume is crap with capital "C", so be aware of this... Hands still suffer 'recessed cannon pinion" problem, the hour hand is too close to the dial so it's slightly bent upwards to avoid the contact with the second hand at 9 o'clock, almost touching the minute hand as it passes over it. The distance between hour and minute hand is quite big, almost 1.5 mm, and as such easily spotted by looking the the crystal at even the slightest angle. Hands lume is OK. Crown is so-so, better then the previous version, but still too beveled, had they decreased the bevel edge it would be close to the original. Crown guard is a real improvement, 1:1 - in my eyes, it's perfect. I guess, if you get this watch and take it to The Zigmeister for a 'spa' treatment, relume the lume disc, including recessed pin fix and minute hand re-sizing, and you'll have an almost perfect specimen. Hope this helps a bit in your final decision making ... cheers, babola Edited August 30, 2006 by babola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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