scoobs1971 Posted July 5, 2007 Report Share Posted July 5, 2007 I know that date font and cyclops on the contemporary PAMS are not that good as are the crown and CG, but are there any other noticeable (dial-)flaws? Thnx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted July 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 Anybody? Search button didn't give any useful info on this one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole.W Posted July 7, 2007 Report Share Posted July 7, 2007 I know that date font and cyclops on the contemporary PAMS are not that good as are the crown and CG, but are there any other noticeable (dial-)flaws? Thnx! I got my 164 from Andrew last month. No problems with customs - it made its way right through on my wrist in Germany. After unpacking I was very astonished to see the bezel brushed and not polished on my watch. Andrew stated that he did not know, that the maker changed bezels... And he will give a compensation for being not as it should be But I like it as it is! I am not the guy for 100% authenticity - the watch hast to look good overall. So I will keep it as it is. Regards Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted July 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 After unpacking I was very astonished to see the bezel brushed and not polished on my watch. Did Andrew say that is was an incident or are all 164 delivered with brushed bezel? What kind of movement is inside? How is the overall quality? I'm very curious. This is a watch I'm really starting to like from the gen pics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ole.W Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Did Andrew say that is was an incident or are all 164 delivered with brushed bezel? What kind of movement is inside? How is the overall quality? I'm very curious. This is a watch I'm really starting to like from the gen pics... As I wrote, he didn't knew maker changed the bezels. I don't know if they are back to polished again. Ask him if it is back to polished again. As far as I know there is only one maker for the 164. The movement is an asian 21j, running about +10sec/day. Overall quality is okay, I only had to tighten the CG screws - that was all "assembling" to do after receiving Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted July 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Thnx Ole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 @Ole: Just received the164. My case is also brushed, but the clasp is polished. Weird... Date font and cyclops are terrible however... And the glass seems to be mineral after doing the 'waterdrop-test'.. But all in all for a very cheap rep definitely not too bad looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 This model would be at the top of my list if it was decent, but I could not live with those flaws. I love the 164, however. One of my favorite PAMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sssurfer Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Sorry to be late here. If you really like this model, a pretty decent 164 w/ improved date font and mag and correct lume colors is supposed to make its appearance in a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK471 Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Sorry to be late here. If you really like this model, a pretty decent 164 w/ improved date font and mag and correct lume colors is supposed to make its appearance in a few months. This is good news. It sounds like a number of new ones are on the way. Shouldn't the autos be somewhat easier to rep? I mean, they all have closed casebacks so the movements aren't dead giveaways. But that font and cyclops sure seem to elude the makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Sorry to be late here. If you really like this model, a pretty decent 164 w/ improved date font and mag and correct lume colors is supposed to make its appearance in a few months. I was already thinking of sourcing a seperate case with sapphire glass and AR plus a seperate cyclops and datewheel to do a project. But I guess I'd better wait for the new version. Thnx for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudfish Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 some pics of mine... http://mudfish.googlepages.com/IMG_3953.JP...ize:572,429.jpg http://mudfish.googlepages.com/IMG_3264.JP...ize:697,522.jpg http://mudfish.googlepages.com/IMG_2717.JP..._2717-large.jpg http://mudfish.googlepages.com/IMG_3975.JP...ize:753,565.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobs1971 Posted August 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Just found this link: http://www.paneristi.com/archives/sihh2003/finetune.html The case should be brushed while the bezel and CG should be polished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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