I think that is a good way to put it, lol. I didn't know if maybe they used a different lower grade steel that was lighter. But I guess even lower grade SS is still heavy. I don't claim to know anything about anything. I'm a car guy, if we were talking engines and what not I could keep up with the best of them, but watches are new to me. I just know I want a decent automatic watch and I like the idea of getting into replica collecting. For the right reasons, not to fool people and such nonsense. I'm sure you guys get a lot of newbies on here who want nothing more then to try to trick genuine dealers and such things. But thanks for answering my questions! I think I'm going to order from Josh soon. Any other comments or info would be great!