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I would like to publicly thank a member for his incredible generosity. I had asked him for his expertise on a project I was working on and not only did he respond with great patience to every question, he sent me a crucial part I needed. He got caught up with his life and PM'd me an apology that he hadn't sent it yet and then goes and sends the part Priority Mail paying the extra cash out of his own pocket. I have begged him to let me return the favor but he has yet to take me up on it (I hope he does!).

This is a great place, full of great people. With all the crap going on in this world it is touching to see, and experience, someone so selfless. I am grateful and will pass it on. I feel lucky to have found this place and be here.

Thanks again.

From my own experiences, some brands are easier to source than others. I have been on a 6 month quest searching for a crown and tube for and tube for my Discovery 1911. Every time I get close to the part, they want the serial number of the watch before they will sell me anything. This is Ebel. Not like it is a Patek or Jaeger. What happens to our frankens when Ofrei and Cousins can't source parts? Half the crap on eBay is fake (Yes, I said fake on a rep forum) where do we go? What do we pay?

I Haate snakes!

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Ken

I don't blame you Ken. You have the 10 deadliest snakes in the world down there. I would have to carry a shotgun just to take a jog!

I was looking up a part and found this researching a part. Thoughts?

Watch Materials

SWISS WATCH COMPANIES EARN MILLIONS THEN ABANDON BUSINESS PARTNERS WHO BULIT THE MARKET FOR THEM.

Without the help and support of wholesalers and watchmakers, growth and gains in the Swiss watch industry from the 1900s up to the time they forced out of business the last of the Original American Watch Companies in the 1980s the growth and these gains made by the Swiss Companies would not have been possible. Admittedly, watches played a fair more important role then they do today. However, back in this period if was possible to get almost any part needed for any of the Swiss watch companies at thousands of different wholesalers located across the United States. Big Cites in the East and West might have had 10-20 or more wholesalers who supplied the parts needed to local watchmakers making same day or next day repair service available.

Cutting off the wholesalers had the result of disconnecting and cutting off more than half of the watch repairers in the USA from being able to get parts. Jobs and income were lost at every level of the industry and parts wholesale distributors closed due to lack of parts. The consumers and owners of the watch now faced long delays and forced to pay untold millions each year for unnecessary work of the Companies Service Center. Watch Repair Shops now had to be connected and were now on their own to deal with the major brands those who were now selling direct if at all.

Some people once connected to The Watchmakers Association in the USA feel strongly that the association was infiltrated with people connected with the Swiss watch companies. And that they then turned the Association around so that it no longer was working for the right of all watchmakers to buy parts but rather to lead the charge of parts exclusion and making it economically impossible for only the elite and connected buddies to get parts. In return the association has found these Swiss Watch companies to be a good source of money. In that end it is all about the money and who has got it and those who can no longer can earn it, since they are no longer able to get the parts needed to earn a living in their chosen profession.

Courageous Freedom Fighter Needs Your Help!

Perhaps no time since the American Revolution have we seen such a courageous man willing to devote years of his time for the rights of all Americans. Andre Fleury is the modern version of Thomas Paine, Patrick Bacon and George Washington fighting for American rights and against oppression those trying to subjugate American watchmakers and consumers while lining their pockets with gold. Andre, ask us all to help and like the Minute Man of the past the help of all American Citizens and those of other Foreign countries also being oppressed to let the American Judicial System know what you think about this unfair trade of watch parts. Let

2893-2 doesn't have a correct hand stack. Unless you use your 12h hand as the 24h hand (and vice versa).

Yep, I know. It would be last resort option if I can't find anything else. At least it would be a solid reliable movement but I have put a lot of time and cash into creating this franken Exp II, I want it to be as close as possible.

What options do I have on this other than a Gen 3185 movement? I have been looking online and have found the DG's and Miyota? I'm looking for something more reliable. I guess if I have to I can get one of Andy's 2893-2's.

Thoughts?

PM me. I will send you a set.

And he is playing tennis with it on!!! Here

I know it's a clone, I was saying that I'll wait for one with a Swiss movement and by that time someone will do a decent review of the case. I think the most important aspects of this watch are the case (with the bezel lock button) and the sapphire bezel.

I guess first thing is you never know if you are going to actually get ETA with the Cartel or any other dealers. The case has the bezel lock (just for show, doesn't work) and no sapphire bezel. You can't tell me that these factories don't have the ability to add both of those crucial attributes to that watch. I know a lot of people love this watch, and our demographic here is very small compared to their overall market; But it comes a point when you ask yourself are they just inept or that they think we will buy 5 versions of this to get the right one?

Why does it need to be in English?

I would like to be able to take the book with me and all I read is English.

Dial just doesn't look right. Explorer II

Some of the references he uses for the fakes look like Canal Street junk. Some of the other comparisons of the other non mainstream brands look like decent reps (I'm no expert). Makes me more interested in the book to actually see what he is using for his research.

Ok, I lost. I caught up with work crap and lost. No excuses. Help me find this thing in English and if its reasonable, I will buy it and scan it. BTW, looked up the authors site and using Google translation looked at some of his work. He has a whole "fake/real" section. I can tell you that he would be screwed with some of the frankens this place produces.

Well with Freddy's little joke, I made sure the book was in English. What I will probably do is see if we can get one of the Mods to pin it and everyone can download the PDF.

Thanks Freddy. Ok, I'm bidding on it. Let's not drive up the price btw

When I get it, I will have it scanned and then get it out to whoever would like it.

It just struck me. I will be making a copy of a book on copies. Huh. Irony.

Is there an English version? If there is, I will buy it and scan it for the community.

God Bless you and your family.

It's no big deal. Enjoy your watches.

In addition, the photo on the site is of a Gen.

I'm in.

Reading that about curious geroge i have to add this:

First he is not a monkey at all but an ape

Humans are also apes

I seem to have lost the thread there.....

Wow. Gran went all Darwin on us. Very nice!

Zero feedback scares me off auctions like these. Also, just has the box, no papers. And finally, no shot of the movement. Could be Gen, but a little sketchy.

So much interest in a watch few are likely to buy .....but I guess if it is a true to genuine 1:1 replica it will have many buyers?

The problem always ends up being; When is it ever a true 1:1? I hope it is, but aren't there like 14 DSSD's? And the funny thing is we actually see devolution in this hobby. The 5th Gen PO is way worse than the 4th Gen. It's like the lost the flash drive with the old specs on it.

Not for me unless I was going into the pimping business. Would have color coordinate the scheme with my cane, shoes, and fur coat.