DrTime

I must say, I am shocked by some of the replies in this thread, almost skipped it because I am so sick of all the propaganda we are fed on this topic. Thank you to By-Tor and Dani for your honesty. It takes courage to speak the truth to people who have spent most of their lives being indoctrinated by the media into the belief that AAS use is harmful to the body.

I know several people who have been taking AAS for years and are in perfect health, and I am not talking looks, but liver, heart, etc, as confirmed with regular checks via bloodwork, etc., from their MD's.

The truth is that most supplements you can go into places and buy are nearly worthless and provide almost no long-term strength or size benefits. Many are actually HARMFUL to your overall health. You take 2 identical individuals and give one protein powder and test-e and the other any supplements he wants, have them train and eat exactly the same and the result would be that after 10 weeks, the one taking AAS would be healthier, have better liver values, and oh yeah, be in better shape.

Here is an in process pic that someone else has done. I would say it is looking pretty good.

I saw someone at RG do this and while it still does not look like the gen, it does look much closer.

Looks nice! I like the 196 too, I am working on building one myself. What strap do you have on there?

Any PAM on ebay with no box or papers is FAKE. Any watch of value with distant and crummy pictures is FAKE. Therefore that watch is fake.

I wore a gen one time and had a guy question me on whether it was new from the trip. I guess he wanted me to pay extra tax or something. I have never worn a rep traveling internationally though.

I agree with those who said be aware of who you are meeting with and their feelings. I frequently deal with high net worth individuals in my job. One of them drives a Honda and look like he buys everything from Wal-Mart. But I know that his worth in in the 100's of millions. Just an old time, self made guy. I know he would lose respect for me if he thought I paid $20k for a watch. I have others I deal with that are into looking more flashy for lack of a better term and I would not hesitate to wear some high end reps with, they will respect that more than if I wore a Seiko, their attitude is more like "what the heck, man, we are doing an $80 mil project and you are sporting Levi's and a Seiko?!"

So my advice is know your audience.

I have been looking (unsuccessfully) for one of these for a while, when they are found, how much are the Angelus one's going for?

Um not to hijack, but actually, do you know where I can get one of those plastic swatches? None of the rep places seem to have them.