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A word of thanks I thank all who posted info that gave me the nerve to buy my first rep in October 08, and subsequently to buy three more reps for self and for gifts. I got them all online from two dealers associated with this forum. Prior to discovering this forum, I was scared to order from any of the numerous spammers and others who offered reps online. Introduction In selecting two of the reps I bought online, I chose those with I-GIG (I guarantee it genuine) Swiss ETA 2836-2 movements. However, after I received the first watch with the I-GIG Swiss ETA 2836-2 movement, right off I noticed that when hand winded, the watch clicked differently than the genuine Swiss ETA 2824s and 2836s that I have in my genuine watch accumulation (see by my signature). Before I got a winder, I had developed the habit of listening to the clicks and other sounds while hand winding my watches. I found that genuine Swiss ETA2824-2 and 2836-2 movements in five of the watches in my genuine brand accumulation make very similar sounds when being hand winded, whereas the two reps and the Wenger 72766 with the

Yes, you're correct. However, Omega movements do not have any ETA labeling. They only have Omega labeling. The movements I've mentioned above from the nicereplica.com site are stamped ETA and the rotors are engraved Omega or Rolex.

Hey DemonSlayer, This is my first post, and I've read quite a few threads about how to determine whether certain movements are real Swiss ETA movements or ETA clones. I've read the gold vs nickel plating argument, the stamped vs painted logo argument, etc. How did you determine that Pingutime's gold plated ETA, Omega signed rotor movement is a real [swiss] ETA movement? Does ETA actually engrave the Omega logo on certain movements that are designated for Omega watches? I'm not aware of any real Omega watches having a pure ETA movement with an Omega signed rotor. This indicates the engraving is done by rep manufacturers? For example, take a look at these photos from nicereplicas.com 1. Unsigned gold rotor in an Omega Seamaster, touted to be a real Swiss ETA movement. http://www.nicereplica.com/img.php?imgpath=/U_file/pro/2008/09/25/2008092513015979024.jpg 2. Another Omega Seamaster, but like Pingutime's, the rotor is signed, and is touted to be a real Swiss ETA http://www.nicereplica.com/img.php?imgpath=/U_file/pro/2008/01/12/2008011214153854948.jpg Nicereplicas.com has similar photos for Rolexes. Only the Tudor series uses ETA movements and the rotors are signed Tudor, not Rolex. 3. A Submariner with a Rolex signed rotor, touted to be a real Swiss ETA movement http://www.nicereplica.com/img.php?imgpath=/U_file/pro/2008/05/06/2008050600295795077.jpg 4. A Datejust with a Rolex signed rotor, touted to be a real Swiss ETA movement. http://www.nicereplica.com/img.php?imgpath=/U_file/pro/2008/07/30/2008073014332177650.jpg I have a datejust purchased from nicereplicas.com a short time ago and the movement looks identical to the one pictured above. So is this movement a genuine Swiss ETA-2836-2? The final question is: If these are authentic Swiss ETA movements, is the "unauthentic" watch brand engraving put on the rotors for the purpose of fortifying that the movements are authentic? To me it makes no difference since none of the genuine watches have ETA movements, but since these are touted to be Swiss movements, the watch brand engraving does not add to the proof? What do you think?