Chronus

If the hands fit a Swiss ETA 7750, I'd take it

Every husband thinks he has the prettiest wife at home

Didn't you find there is a "new" version of the 21k Asian 7750 in the IWC 3717? Do the hands still fit onto a genuine Swiss ETA 7750 with no modification?

Maybe they thought you mean "wh0re-ology"

No one is really unsupportive or supportive. Most will think that I'm wasting my money though, and maybe I am. I don't have a car or my own place, all my money seems to go on whatever OCD obsession I have at the time - I have over 100 football (soccer) shirts, over 50 pairs of trainers (sneakers), over 20 leather jackets, thousands of records and CDs (though my excuse is from my DJing days), and now it is even worse as I spend more on watches than I ever did on anything else. I should really have got a car and my own place by now

UPS stole my Sinn U2

Get yourself a Santos, and tell her how beautiful she is

That would be a good price. Now with the PVD... spare movement as backup... and maybe a relume

Where to get this movement from at that price in Europe? And how much does this watch normally go for?

Does this watch have a genuine ETA movement ?

Search for a thread i started a few weeks ago about PVD, David kindly posted pictures of his PAM there. Just be aware that true PVD is NOT black and more of a grey/violet colour. This is true for genuines as well. I don't have internet at home at the moment, so sorry I don't have the time to do the search right now.

I never got those, though other kids at school had those watches... I seem to remember getting the "game" watches...

Is your name Guybrush Threepwood? :tumbleweed rolling by: I'l get my coat.

If a great version of the PAM187 with ETA 7753 ever comes out I'll want one. Finepics did the ones on my PAM188 and 196 so I'll just wish good luck to everyone

Only coating I can think they'd do for rolex is owners wanting to get their crystals coated aftermarket. I don't know how it would work as I don't know whether the genuines use similar adhesives for the cyclops attachment to the crystal. In that case, the 300 celsius coating would not be possible, unless it is 1 piece.

Congratulatations

No confirmation that this is being created. Just general discussion sparked by The Zigmeister's "seconds at 3" review. If this movement isn't made, it only leaves the MBW version with ETA 2892 and DD chrono module, genuine dial and hands which all costs over 2000 Euros! It's a much better solution than the modified Asian 7750 copy movement, and with asymmetric pushers like the genuine, is as close as you are likely to get from a rep. I think at these prices though, many will rather save up for a used genuine.

Definitely not underground and under the radar anymore...

That's a good question and response. You could well be right here.

Any suggestions? Any interest at all?

After seeing The Zigmeister's wonderful review of the modified Asian 7750 copy movement with seconds moved to the 3 o'clock position, some were querying whether this could be done for a "seconds at 12 o'clock" movement, such as those used in the AP Offshore's (AP ROO). There are a few differences between this and the seconds at 3 or 6, whereby instead of moving one subdial to an "empty" position such as the 3 o'clock, we are now having a crossover of subdials. To do this is a little more complex, 1. the subdial at the 12 o'clock position will have to be moved elsewhere, let's say to the empty 3 o'clock position (or anywhere that is more mechanically efficient). (It is better to have less gearing on a more wearing part of the movement, such as running seconds at 9, which is why I think this one is moved). 2. the running seconds subdial at 9 will now have to be moved to the 12 o'clock position. 3. the subdial originally at 12, but now at 3 will now have to be moved to the 9 o'clcock position. I don't know how many other watches and brands use this movement apart from AP chronos, so it may not be viable for makers to produce such a movement. There are other "problems" with producing the AP Offshore. -The plane of the pushers and crown is different from standard. This would have to be corrected by the case makers, but I think can be done with this movement, just use "internal" pushers that slightly incline to create the correct effect; -The thickness of the movement: will it be too thick for the AP ROO or AP RO Chrono? -subdial placement on the genuine seconds at 12 has the running seconds at a slightly different position to the standard, thus limiting the re-usability in other brands. This means the movement makers may not bother with this modification for the AP if they don't believe it will be a big seller; -getting a genuine dial or the dial makers fabricating a new, more correct dial. The AP ROO could just be made without fixing the dial and the pusher placement and I'm sure most would be happy with that (and existing owners of the MBW who could do a movement swap). Can anyone list which other watches use this movement configuration? And any other ideas on how to achieve this result?

Speedmaster? Not really a fan of the Bentley watch...

And, as ever, a great review

Is the ETA 7750 or modified versions too thick for this watch? Also the plane of the pushers is different to the plane of the crown on the genuine. Subdial placement is also non-standard, so it can't be used in other watches, so we'll see if the makers think the ROO will sell enough to make all that money.