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This is an insert that I received, just this week, from wholesaleoutlet, on the bay. I think it looks fair. Zeros could be a little wider, but I'm happy with it and it has a pretty good pearl also. Needs some clearcoat.

I got one in a Noobmariner from Eurotimez...came last week. Sweep of the second hand looks very good and so far it is keeping good time. I do plan to put a 2836 in there, just because it's easier to work on imho. The only thing that I don't like is that the rotor jingles. It seems sloppily fitted. I took it off and put it back but that is just the way it is made.

You have to be careful if you have hollow mid links. You don't want them to fill with oil or you never get it out. I use 3 in 1 oil. Makes you watch smell like a mechanics shop...love it! I don't wash it but rather just spend some time wiping it off with a rag.

Not at all...it is essentially the same movement. The 36 has gearing and tripping mechanism to run a day wheel in addition to the date wheel. It is also a few pico thousands of the mm thicker. that is the reason that the 36 is used in the rep sub cases. Puts the winding stem center of the case tube. 2824 is a little off in most rep cases. Timing capability, reliability, and longevity should be identical. MT

BTW...I ordered mine with a DG4813. Clocks at 28.8. Really looks good and so far it seems to keep excellent time. +-2-4 sec/day. That will probably change.

I got one from Eurotimez, this week. It is stunning. Jingled though. High end watches do not jingle. Tell you what you can do quickly to give your watch a better look and feel. Get some 600 grit emery paper and relieve those sharp edges...almost cut my hand off on them. The other thing is to oil the band. I laid mine in an aluminum pie pan (not the head, just the bracelet) and squirted 3 in 1 oil on the back of it and manipulated it...quickly, though. You don't want those hollow mid-links to fill up with oil. (This works really well if you have solid mid-links. Then spend some time cleaning the oil off, with paper towels and then a cotton towel. Gives the watch a much more gen feel...and stops that infernal jingling. Good watches don't jingle. MT

I replaced a DG2813 with a Miyota 8215 and used the same hands...perfect fit. Also, the dial feet are in the same position, however, the date window is about 1mm closer to the center of the dial, on the DG. Mechanically they are not alike. The 8215 does not hack and it only winds in one direction. One of the best, most reliable and accurate movements I have is a Miyota 8215 in an Invicta 8926. It runs in 1/2 sec/day +-.

Thanks for reply. I think that it is just not that bad yet. It doesn't just spin all the time. Sometimes if I am just sitting with the watch level, if I move my wrist so as to shake it a little, it will spin. In any other orientation it does not do it. Rotor has to be setting level...for obvious reasons. Seems to not be an uncommon problem.

Toadtorrent, You mention a "sticking reverser wheel". I posted this question on General Discussion and got no response. I have a watch that I built up that has an Asian-made 2824-2 (dealer insists that it is ETA), maybe a Hangzhou 6300. It is only 4 months and keeps time in the +-2 sec. range. Sometimes when I sit with the watch in flat, dial-up orientation I can hear the rotor spinning. I have removed the movement and confirmed that the rotor is spinning. It is like it is being driven by the mainspring and actually winding down the watch, but it only turns about a dozen revolutions, or so. Is this a "sticking reverser"? Is the upper wheel sticking to the lower wheel. I can probably determine which way the rotor spins when it happens. I want to fix it. Thanks!

Just a questions...wasn't sure which forum to post it on but I thought I remembered someone commenting on this issue. I have a watch that I built that has an Asian made (I think, although the dealer maintains that it is ETA) 2824-2. When I get it close to me ear and if it is in a flat dial-up position I can hear the rotor spinning...like it is being driven by the mainspring and is unwinding the movement. Could this be caused by dirty or ill-oiled reversers or the upper and lower reverser wheels sticking? This movement is 4 months old, but I have no idea how long it has been since mfg. or how well it was prepared during mfg. Any help or advice would be kindly appreciated. Thanks, Mike

This is something that I just came across on another forum and thought it might be of interest to some. We are concerned with the smoothness of the sweep of the second hand and feel that this is something that either confirms or denies the genuineness of a watch. Someone was asking about the lift angles for calibration on some watch movement and this document was thrown in. Scroll down to Rolex and you will notice that all of the calibers beat from 19K to 21.6K per hour. http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p5o...Bjx8xkOJtA2AiZA The smoothness of the sweep of the second hand is directly related to the beat rate of the movement. This being true, the Asian 21J 2813 that comes in the basic noobmariner is more authentic than any of the 2824-2 or 2836-2 movements, whether gen or clone. Could this be true? Maybe VPH and BPH is not the same number, but I think it is. I always thought that the Rolex, in-house movements were the ones that beat in the 36K range...not so. Comments???

I saw a thread on another site that had some beautiful pic of Obama's watch. His SS detail when he was Senator gave it to him. They bought it at the Secret Service commissary. The big star that you can see in closeups is actually the SS logo...maybe badge.

Thanks to all for responses. Thought it might be something like new...bee. Guess I'm a noob. Been messing with watches for a long time and have built a few, but have not been into reps...am now. Watch below is my latest project. It began life as a genuine fake Rolex, from Cancun. A friend gave me the empty case and bracelet. I added the leather strap and deployant clasp. I put in a Hangzhou 6300...I think...although, the perveyor insists it is gen ETA 2824-2 (btw, it does run in +- 3 sec/day). Case tube and crown were gone so I had to replace them and it had had a DG 2813 so I had to remove and replace the mag lens. I took pics when I completed work and did not clean the watch up. Sorry for the dirty watch. I'm interested in reps. Was led to your site. Am enjoying the forum. MT

No, really...what is a Noobmariner, for instance.

Pardon my ignorance, but I am a new subscriber to this forum. Would someone please explain the notion of "noob". Sometimes it seems to be a noun...and sometimes an adjective...I've even seen it as a verb, I think. Is it an acronym?