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Exactly. Due to the added small lens on the date window, both the watchmen and chieftang cyclops resulted overpowered on the 027 and 028. One solution is to remove the small lens (I seem to remember that archibald and/or kruzer00 followed this way). A better solution is to use a cyclops adequately powered. I had some of them available, you can see one on my 028 thread (soon to be updated, as I managed to get a palp's PVD crown in the end! ). I just sold out those cyclopses, but another batch is in the pipeline. Just, these new ones are 6.45mm diameter (while the gens are 6mm, and the first batch was 6.3mm) and I still have to test their mag power exactly. On the paper, they should perform almost as good as the first ones...

What PAMman told about the 'recessed' PR gauge is -- as anything that PAMman tells -- absolutely exact. What I can add is that it is an [even small] issue on the 027 only, not on the 028, as the PR gauge on the 028 rep is recessed like the genuine. This is a fortunate (and desired) side-effect of the hobnail finish on the 028 dial. In the rep, the 028 finish is made of a thin added layer applied over the dial. This layer is interrupted at the PR gauge, so giving exactly the recessed look of the genuine. As far as I know, this is the only detail making the 028 rep even more appealing than the 027 (on the other hand, the inaccurate PVD finish of the 028 makes for an added mod needed).

Really! sanro, info by dadog is perfect. I am a PR fan, and the only things that I can add are: The 45 hrs power reserve is an issue of models with PR indicator @5hr (PAM 090, 124, 222), that have the Seagull 2530 movement (or a clone of it), not of models with PR indicator @6hr (PAM 027 and 028), that either have the ETA 2892-A2 (690 USD) or the Asian 21J (80 USD). As far as I know, River recently sold his last ETA 2892-A2 027. And ETA 2892-A2 028 are sold out since a long time now. If you happen to see a 2nd hand one, jump on it! Then ask lello for a good datewheel and me for a good cyclops*, and you will end up with a 99.99% rep. My 028 is my only rep that I would even proudly wear at a Paneristi party. I posted a thread about it time ago, you may want to have a look at it, and I am soon going to post an update as I got a new PVD crown for it. The flaw in the rotor is that "OFFICINE" is spelled "OFFICNE". If you want to have a feeling of a 027 while waiting for a 2nd hand one to show up, then go for the $80 model from Silix. It is inaccurate in the caseback and date mag, but on any other respects it is an excellent rep with an uncomparable performance/price ratio. Best wishes, :sss: *EDIT: I just remembered that my 'perfect' cyclopses for the 2892-A2 are sold out now. I still have some 99% cyclopses though.

WAZZAPPNIN HERE?!? ---- Thanks lanikai for the OP link. As you look so fond of OP history, may I point you to the book "Panerai Historia" by Giampiero Negretti? Maybe there is some English translation out there. Thanks vbarrett for the Alpha heads up! I think I just found my source for crystal and lug screws replacements for my 147.

Your thinking so highly about me is always gratifying, lanikai, thanks! But I have to say that the little I know fades away when compared to PAMman's knowledge.

I don't know, but I would like to tell you my story here. It was a long time I liked watches, and/but I never heard about Panerai. I was after AP, PP, IWC, VC, Breitling, all those brands of good taste, history, classy look, that you all are well aware of. A couple years ago, while browsing a wristwatch book for another brand whose name began with "P" (I am now even unable to remember which brand it was, go figure), I stumbled upon the Panerai pages. Just a couple pages on a 400+ pages book. There were an Egiziano and a vintage model. Wow, I thought. Strange, but... how appealing. I fell in love istantaneously. Shortly after I discovered RWG -- and there were literally thousands of PAM enthusiasts (and rep enthusiasts as well) exactly like me! Unbelievable. My fate was decided.

Thanks again everyone for your kind words and appreciation. A special thanks to Bearcat who kindly provided some BB/PB numbers for the next release. This reminded me to work on it. Hope to post it soon.

Awesome watch and view! Congrats! Would you tell us anything more about the comments by that complete stranger on the watch? Did he know of PAMs, or was he just a man of good taste, or what? Btw: hairy arms just add to watch appeal. At least in my personal-and-all-but-unbiased opinon.

Can't believe you missed them, lani! http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=59208

Flamemax's advice is the best, Brent. And here is a link to get you started: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=56499

Hi lanikai! ... just, any metal would prevent Chi from flowing along body energy channels... let alone that fiddy + bracelet monster!..

Unsure I get the correct meaning of your question (poor English speaker here, apologies). If you mean which genuine models have blue hands and indices, the only models that also come in blue are the BR01-92 Limited Edition and the BR01-94 (both 46mm models). If you mean whether all the three hands on blue models are lumed in blue: yes, they all are.

Thanks all vb, LordRasta, deltatahoe, SubFrog, Stephane, timgroth, docblackrock, kenberg, V, cornerstone, chieftang and Pix for your kind words and/or appreciation! I had a great a time, but, honestly, I missed you and the RWG company. Yes, B., the 050 performed perfectly. Stephane, sad now to see you depart from great part of your astounding collection. Vicky, you may figure I extensively checked my scuba fellows and any other hotel guests' wrists for their watches. Still, I saw NO interesting watches -- with exception for a quite boring genuine Rolex TT sub on a fellow diver. I suppose we are just a bunch of watch geeks...

Maybe it lacks a small pin+spring ensemble that should stay below the bezel, in a small hole of the case. You should try removing the bezel and check. Be cautious: if the pin and spring are there, the spring uses to throw the pin into 4th dimension as soon as you remove the bezel. To remove the bezel, a watchsmith knife is the best tool in my experience*. Place its edge between the bezel and case, and make lever action. At least, this works on Omega bezels. *Too thin blades will chip.

I would try it, if I only had not to use my left hand. That bracelet + fiddy ensemble must weigh about 1K.

Whoa, thanks! Anyway, no religion issues... not directly, at least... it is just a scientific (but in plain words, as far as my co-author and I have been able on such a though subject) book about mind and consciousness. (Btw, I am anti-religious, but not especially anti-Christian. There are much worse religions around). Sacred words! A confession, my dear Vicky. I actually had a feeling of it! Exactly! Btw, the island and hotel were we were located are all but expensive to tourists, I don't want to sound like a King Midas. Yes Vicky, I was meaning aragosta. I checked my dictionary and I came out unable to make my mind about which word to use. In the end, I choosed the word that sounded more French-like in consideration of your French speaking. Thanks for pointing me to the right word! I know you are not used to correct your interlocutors, but I would really appreciate it if you will help me this way with my English any time.

Thanks all, fellows! I hope you will forgive me if I take this occasion to have some small talk with our Lady. Thanks, Vicky, bentrovata to you! Just, I am an intellectual rather than an action man... go figure, next year should be released my book... Uhm, I have no gen PAMs... I suppose this speaks even more about me Yes, 22mm at the lugs and 20mm at the buckle. You like the hotel, Vicky? Here are a few shots: but always available for good flirting with very selected ladies Honestly, I cannot say I came to know Madagascar. I stayed in one of the best hotels of Nosy Be, an island considered the Montecarlo of Madagascar. But I had a few trips outside, and poverty was overwhelming. People is very very poor, but they look serene. Still, prostitution to tourists is one of their main sources of income. We had a couple trips to town discos, and we had to literally take the hands of girls off us. You could rent a girlfriend (they said a "fiancee") for a whole week, night and day, at a risible price. Even in the town, people had no electric light. Night clubs make their own light by machinery. About their cuisine: it looked as their national dish was langouste and lobster. I never eat so many langoustes and lobsters in a row (and in a week). I love them, but in the end I could not even look at them anymore. And their meat is not for me. They have no cows but zebus, and that meat was though and even too tasteful. Vegetables were even too spiced to me. Fruit was obviously exceptional, especially papayas and mangos. Hey! That was not a Speedo! And sorry, I hate boxers for bathing and swimming. If I had thought it, that would just have been to my delight. Thanks Vicky, and sorry for your bronchitis. I really hope you get well soon.

Shots from a recent holiday in Madagascar. I took with me my 050 (it is one of my few reps that I feel I would never get called out on it, and it also is waterproof tested). Should three watch pics be too few in order to qualify this thread for the Panerai area, mods please move it wherever you like (I was unable to decide an appropriate sub-gallery in the Photography area). The arrival and a wristshot: Going scuba diving... not too bad places, IMHO: Nice travel company to our diving places: A dive group shot: Assorted underwater fauna shots: And... His Majesty the Whale Shark! (about 10m long): (I have to admit the 2nd pic was not taken by me, it was provided by a friend and I suspect he took it from the net) Not just scuba diving... Madagascar also has nice land attractions: To reach our forest trekking place whe had to do some pirogue work... I had Lara Crof right in front of me as my guide! But don't get too excited... I also had wifey right behind me as my guardian : Assorted land fauna shots: Lemures: Chameleons: Other reptiles: Some well deserved rest together with my 050 (it does not clearly show in the pic, but it was underwater): Thanks all for looking! :sss:

And an inexpensive solution! That glass from cousinsuk is at 1.1 GBP: http://www.cousinsuk.com/catalog/4/2077/2088.aspx HWS Sternkreuz 37.2 HWS372 BTW, Tom, was your crystal sapphire?

Almost correct. But the problem is man rather than society. Man ("human" world intentionally missed) society arises whenever and everywhere two men meet, but even a single man is dangerous to any other living beings. Man (as well as Macacus Rhesus and other beings provided with machiavellan intelligence) is obviously a cancer to Earth. Agent Smith was right. Naturally. Btw, do you think that forbidding weapons would fix man/society? In the country where I live guns are forbidden. The obvious result is that only criminals have guns. My only weapons are reduced to knives, my car, my body, and my anatomical and physiological knowledge. But I can assure you that I would not hesitate a second to killl (or severely wound, depending on the threat) anyone who threatens me or my family, if I were given a chance. In case of threat, guns only decide who hits first, and I regret of almost surely being the last one who can hit. And -- not just to give a false impression about me -- I am one who never attacks on his own initiative, one who takes care of others (literally), one who cares not to even crush ants under his foot when he walks.

Uhm. Steradent and similars are very effective on white ceramic dials. But your dial looks metallic. H2O2, bleach, and similar oxiding agents might give a transient improvement, but then they might make it even worse as stain is an oxidation process. If I were you, I would, in order: 1 - Try some physical means (i.e. Rodico) 2 - Live with it (in the end, that is a vintage dial). 3 - Try some of those anti-stain-spot liquids for tissues/clothes.

Yes, Nanuq is out of doubt our Master Watch Torturer.

Agree. In my personal opinion he was even better than Jetmid.

Back. Chieftang, I am pleasantly surprised to read that your source might be able to make sapphire layers provided with a hole. If he can, naturally this would be great both for the AR and the glue refraction problems. And obviously a single sapphire crystal with a hole embedded would be even better -- just, I am a bit dubious this is possible. If it is, I suspect that cost might become an issue. In any case, my suggestions about the dimensions stay the same: 3.5mm central thickness, 2.5mm edge thickness, 1.4mm hole depth. Btw, I am strongly persuaded that recessing the cyclops is the only way to go to 7mm diameter cyclops.

As far as I know: yes. Btw, I subscribe all Hambone's warnings to you about reps in general and PAMs especially. And his welcome to the forum. If you are really fond about reps and horlogery I suggest you take a minute to have a look here and consider upgrading your membership. This will highly help you in taking the best out of your money and the greatest fun out of the forum.