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cant go wrong with a Brietling Navitimer or BCE, but take a look at the Maurice LaCroix Pontos Small Seconds, two tone. I wear it a lot with dress suits.

you can tell from the choices, he is HOOKED!!!!!!!!

Very nice franken. Even side by side with my blue gen on mesh you wold not be able to tell the diff

I would paid for the Gaytona!

Nice choices for dress watches.

I do not plan to order a gen crown. Its such a small thing to me, its not worth the money, especially with the gold version which would be 18k gold. I plan to get AR done once I learn how to remove a crystal myself.

Here are mine. The Gen is the white dial the rep is the black dial

Close up of Gen Gold Numerals

Introduction

For many IWC enthusiasts, the IWC Portuguese Model 3714 is the holy grail of dress watches. Classic and elegant, it wears larger than its 41mm case dimensions suggest. It comes in several versions which in my opinion are all attractive in their own right.

The problem with the Portuguese is the seconds at 6 o

One gen ss white w/gold and one concepta franken rose gold case black dial with gold nums. waiting for time to take pics.

Great Looking Navi, wish I had one too.

For the same dilemma, I chose to have the movement replaced by Concepta. Its expensive, but I think it will be worth the money and the gen movement will last forever with proper care.

Found the info below on a website: http://www.protectingyourself.co.uk/self-defence-law.html

This comports with my understanding on the law in the US and the UK. Please note that all actions with or without weapons are judged by the standard of reasonbleness. If you pummel an unarmed person half your size or an an unarmed woman with a roll or quarters because they took a swing at you, it could be a problem depending on the threat they posed to you. On the other hand if the guy is a rugby player who is larger than you, using a roll of quarters might be justified even if he is unarmed. If someone smaller has a knife, I do not think a judge or jury will have any problem with the roll of quarters scenario. One of the best brawls I was ever in, a buddy next to me who weighed about 130 lbs knocked out a monster with one punch. Turns out he was a golden gloves boxing champ which we did not know till that night.

Here is what the website says:

There has been confusion about what is permitted under the law when an individual is acting in self-defence. Some have even suggested that the law gives more protection to criminals than to honest citizens acting to protect themselves, their family and their homes. There is a belief that citizens in the USA are in a much stronger position as far as the law on self-defence is concerned.

However, although not enshrined in statute, the law in this country is very clear:

an individual is entitled to protect themselves or others;

they may inflict violence and/or use weapons to do so;

the level of violence may include killing the assailant; and,

an individual may even act pre-emptively and still be found to have acted in self-defence.

The protection offered to the honest citizen by the principle of self-defence comes in two stages.

The Crown Prosecution Service

Before a case gets to court the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) will have to decide whether it should go that far. In reaching this decision there are various factors that the CPS will take into account, including:

Whether there is likely to be enough evidence to secure a conviction; and,

Whether a prosecution is in the public interest.

The CPS has stated that citizens who have acted reasonably and in good faith to protect themselves, their families or their property should not face prosecution for their acts.

There will be instances where the circumstances of an individual case demand that it goes to court. These may include cases where it is not clear that an individual really was acting in self-defence or where serious injuries or death have resulted. However, this does not mean that a death will automatically lead to prosecution.

Self-Defence and the Courts

If an individual is prosecuted after having acted, or having claimed to act, in self-defence the courts will apply the following test:

Was the force used by the individual reasonable in the circumstances as he or she believed them to be?

The jury will have to answer this question based on the facts as the individual saw them when he acted as he did. A person is entitled to use reasonable force to protect themselves, members of their family or even a complete stranger if they genuinely believe that they are in danger or are the victim of an unlawful act, such as an assault. An individual may even take what is known as a pre-emptive strike if they honestly believe that the circumstances demand it. This means that a person can use force if they believe that there is a threat of imminent violence if they do not act first.

I am into both and can say that I like and love both my reps and gens equally. I have reps of watches that I would not wear regularly like the Skyland and Bentley GT, I also like gold watches like the Navitimer and the Bentley Bid Date and do not want to pay the price for a solid gold case. However my gen grail watches I bought just to feel good about owning them as fine works of art/jewelry. I am not into rings or other jewelry, so watches are my thing. I have a 2 gen IWCs incluing the Portuguese (my true grail watch) and I have two gen Breits including a Super Avenger that doubles as a self defense weapon.

I guess if I am going to crap on a thread, I might as crap midgets!!!!!!!!

As a member of all three fora, who frankly could care less about all the drama, I feel obligated to ask, why did we stop talking about midgets?

I am a lawyer, but know nothing of Belgium Customs law. However, I located a decent summary of Belgium law on importing counterfeit goods here http://www.eccbelgium.be/EN/infocenter/news_detail.asp?h=9&nID=883#2. It appears that possession of counterfeit goods is not a criminal offense in Belgium, but buying counterfeit goods and importing them to Belgium may be a criminal offense by both the buyer and the seller punishable by fine or imprisonment. Of course, the seller is not located in Belgium so there is little that they can do to the seller, but you are located in Belgium, so they can reach you. I suggest that you might consult with an attorney regarding the possible sanctions if you respond to their inquiry. It sounds like if you simply advise them that you did not know it was illegal and agree to allow them to destroy the watches, it is unlikely that they will take further action. However, I would want to know from an attorney that by sending the letter you are not exposing yourself to a fine. I also suspect that you will be on a database so that future purchases would be scrutinzed.

I think the newest ones are the SA Blacksteel and the SA Stencil dials that have just been released. I am with you, looking for something new from Breitling.

great watch strap combo. the thicker strap gives it the good look IMO.

Has anyone offered to take the plunge, or should we wait till our trusted dealers can source it?

I says thanks and offer to sell it to them for 50% off the gen price.

Yodap is the "master" of all Breitling knowledge. I could print his posts and keep in a reference book and I still would not remember all of it.

Here is what I have purchased:

Chronomat EVO v3 - White Arabic Numerals on Leather, but there are a million versions and color combos. Pick one you like

Chronomat EVO v3 - Black Batons on Leather, same as above

Skyland V3 Blue Dial on Stainless Bracelet - Dressy and sporty

Bently GT Racing -Maroon Face on Stainless Bracelet - again, many combos, pick one you like

Super Avenger White Dial Arabic Numerals - I just bought the gen, but you can get the rep, mod w/ a gen dial and get a gen bracelet and its as close to the gen as you can get for about a 1/3 -1/2 of the price.

SOH Blue or Brown on Mesh Bracelet - again, dressy and sporty at the same time. I own the gen Blue and the rep Brown

I also like the Chrono EVO TT w/ roman numerals on Josh's site. Comes in White, Black, Blue and Brown dials on stainless.

Never bought a SOSF, too plain for me, but I like the orange and the yellow dials.

FYI - I wore my rep of this watch with the maroon dial to a conference in Boston. I recd two compliments in the airport and one at a shopping mall and I am not even home yet. A really nice dress watch. Purchase and enjoy.

Get a gen or rep Breitling Black. Just my two cents.

Get a gen or rep Breitling Black. Just my two cents.

Congrats. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine.

Glad to see a few replies. The rep is a great looking watch. I am glad to see some actual clean shots of it.

I have a st ex rose gold on order. Someone posted a nice orange hands big pilot which I am considering. Thanks for reading!