briank996

Anyone ever been able to do a gen/rep comparison, and is it worth shelling out the extra money for a gen?

Will a deployment fit any of the straps with 18mm buckle?

Anyone have a rep that they would be willing to part with?

Another nice one JMB. At this rate I'm going to be, like, 10th with my gilt dial.

I doubt that will take away any of your enjoyment

I can't stand waiting....

Looks beautiful and I love the gilt dial! Only problem is it looks too NEW!

Lost in the mail since 1969.

Just got word from JMB that my new 1016 was finished...

He sent me a few pics to tide me over while it's in transit, but actually I think they made me more anxious than anything else.

Looks exquisite! A big thanks to Mr. JMB who is really a pleasure to deal with and would proactively keep me updated every step of the way.

More pix on arrival...

JMB Case with Custom Bezel

Yuki Dial

Gen Crown

Clark Tube

Clark T21 Crystal

Cartel 7836 Bracelet

WSO 580 End Links

ETA 2824 (Date detent removed via 2801-2 Set Lever, Hack Lever Removed)

JMB's fine work on putting this thing together.

The easier solution to taking out the middle click is to use part 445 from a 2801-2 movement.

That's a cool tidbit of knowledge. Did you use this mod yourself? Any downside?

JMB mentioned that "With the "bumps" filed off the set lever there is nothing to positively hold the stem in the winding or time set positions so it makes winding or setting the time tricky until a technique is developed."

Wondering if the 445 part would resolve this too.

In bulding up a watch that doesn't have a date function (Explorer) would it be wise to remove the date function from an ETA 2824?

Also, what are the options for doing so and would it impact reliability in any way?

I did exactly the same project, using JMB's case and bezel. I purchased the 455B's for the 2mm springbars from WSO. I had to take the dreml to them a good bit to make them fit the case. They are perfect once you spend the time to mil them down. They were too long, not too wide (width is perfect). The springbars would not reach to the holes.

Any pics? Who is WSO?

The white-lume-on-gilt is the best 1016 dial that Yuki has made in three years. Good choice!

It's neat to think that the dial would have looked something like that if you'd bought an Explorer in, say, 1965

For only $165! (Bracelet extra of course.)

Excellent dial but...

... I'm missing the hands in your bag

Dee

They're there, I promise! In the watch case wrapped in soft fuzzy stuff.

Yep, maybe a set of Clark's Tudor mercedes hands

Not sure how the 580 ends will work. On the 1601 and 16014 cases a set of 455B rep ends fit like a glove. If you use the 2mm springbars, it may be tricky reaming out the 580 ends so tha the sb's fit.

The 580s I got off of ebay. The "580" stampings aren't great but they do fit gen springbars.

I think I may have a set of 455s in my spares box at home. When I get there on Monday I will have a look

That's very nice of you, thanks. Do your 455s have the access holes on the bottom side or are they gen like?

Exciting stuff, I look forward to seeing the final product. I have a similar project in the works and seeing yours makes me itchy.

I know how you feel. Now that I have everything packed up and ready to ship to JMB, I totally have ants in my pants.

Just wating on endlinks...

I've never found holding a bag of parts so satisfying...

JMB Custom Bezel

JMB DJ Case

Gen Crown

Clark T22

Swiss ETA 2824

Yuki Dial

Rep 7836

Rep 7206

Waiting on 580 end links wholesaleoutlet990

Then it's off to JMB for final assembly...

Here is a non-cartel dial that I'm thinking of buying...

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8844/img0070xu.jpg

The non-cartel is $100 more, just wondering if it was worth the price difference...

Anyone have a good picture of Andrew's swiss 1016 dial? Looking to use it for a new JMB 1016 build.

Yes, an MBW case would be great. I've been looking for one for 6 months..

Sometimes, for whatever unfortunate reason, a transaction doesn't go according to the expectations either of the buyer, or the seller. This guy has been, from what I read, in business for some time, and has a lot of satisfied customers who are willing to pay a hefty premium for his straps.

It sounds to me as if you were hurt on some personal level and expected a formal apology, something he, as a seller running a business, is neither willing nor required to give you.

Another thing, if your underlying objective in the post is to besmirch this person's hard-earned business standing with some personal tirade about you weren't apologized to in some isolated incident, you have really come across as a whiny little [censored]. If you want it replaced, get it replaced. If you don't, then don't.

You're a man dude, grow a pair ffs...

Seriously? Grow a pair.

I'm not looking for anything at this point, I just thought it was worth letting others know.

You're silly if you think there isn't appreciation for good customer server in the business world, or for heavens sake the luxury goods market. I assure you that Elliot's bottom line reflects this. I'm not hurt, just attempting to keep money flowing to those who do provide good CS and withhold it from those that don't. Believe it or not, people in general, care about this kind of thing.

And another thing. I'd hardly call revealing an email string a personal tirade.

Thanks guys.

I'm very busy myself, but I would have handled this entirely different and I suspect it would have taken less energy that he has already put into it.

In the end, I just hope that this post steers some sales to someone who actually gives a [censored] rather than someone who "can't be bothered"

This whole "internet" is smaller than people think.

Im somehow missing to OP point, You forgot to put your correct address on the shipment (not his fault). You contacted him about a problem he offered two options. You didnt pick either. Maybe he is waiting on you to chose an option and not make matters worst.

I think he has a email / comminication issue versus a service issue.

The invoice had the correct address, meaning that I entered it correctly and you'll see that I mentioned that in the OP. He had the right address.

You're in the right...

But...

I also find it's better to not have a contentious "give me service" attitude with people, in general, if you want good results.

Bottom line: he delivered the strap you ordered. It was a pain to have to go get it. But, you did get what you ordered. He's not a crook.

When you expressed you had an issue with the strap keeper, he offered to refund or switch it for you, right? So, not sure why you prodded him with "there's something wrong here" as though he was "up to something" or had a "personal issue" with you. Why bother? Why not take him up on his offer to make it right, and move on rather than engaging with him? And now you've created a critical thread about him...

IMO, life is too short to put out this much energy on something that isn't a big deal. He's an honest business man, who was at worst guilty of not paying enough attention to the multiple e-mails he was sent by you.

BTW, I've bought straps from him over the years, and I've always had a good experience with him.

I'd just move forward.

I don't want a replacement, just a sincere apology. Is that unreasonable? It seems he'd rather throw another strap at me than just apologize for the inconvenience.

I ordered a Mario Paci strap on a Friday and received a UPS shipping notification email on the following Monday. I noticed that the UPS email didn't include my apartment number but the invoice clearly did.

I immediately sent this...

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"Hello,

My UPS tracking number didn't include my apartment (Apt D) (My invou

Just wanted to make sure it was included.

Thanks.

Brian "

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No response....

4 day later when UPS showed undeliverable I sent this...

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"As I suspected, UPS doesn't have the apartment number on the package. After 30 minutes on the phone with UPS, I'll now have to go down to the depot for pickup."

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Again, no response.....

Upon receiving the strap, I notice a defect in the leather. It was 2 days before I could take a picture but I sent another email 2 days later, this time with a photo showing the defect.

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"Hi Elliot,

I love the new strap but on the long end, there is some kind of wrinkle and discoloration that I wanted to let you know about. Please see the attached photo...

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/686/wrinkle.jpg

I know it's hard to see but it sort of looks like a defect in the leather itself?

brian"

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Again, no response....

Another two days later, I sent the exact same email again and received this response from Elliot....

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"Hi,

Thanks for letting me know.

Regards

Elliot"

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My immediate response...

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"Is it normal or do they all have this? I'm a bit dissatisfied.

brian"

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Frusterated, I respond again, just a few minutes later...

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"What have I done to deserve such poor customer service Elliot?"

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Surprisingly he responds within a few minutes...

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"Hello,

I am not sure what you mean.

You sent me an e-mail to let me know about the band……..I then answered your e-mail. You then wrote me back at 7:26pm and asked a question.

And now you are writing again to ask about my customer service.

Do you want to send the strap back? Do you want to replace it with something else?

Regards

Elliot"

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I give the following response along with string of emails that you are reading right now.

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"It just feels like something is wrong here. Is it just miscommunication?

brian"

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Elliot emails back quickly....

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"Hi,

It has to be miscommunication……..as I have even asked you this evening if you wanted a replacement and you didn’t answer.

I am not sure what to say.

Elliot"

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My response...

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"How about... "I apologize"?

Brian"

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And nothing from Elliot since..

Am I being unreasonable in expecting some acknowledgement of the problems I have encountered?

Am I really communicating that poorly? It seems like he's being obtuse.

Thanks! I looked forever, even searched the page for the string "search" with no luck. Thanks again.

Is there a search function on this board anymore? I can't seem to find it.

too bad the dial has taken a step backwards from the H factory dials with the low bars on the A's and it is not even close to being a bold font on the dial text.

and the L swiss made L is terribly misplaced.