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Thanks for the timely review! I have been thinking of getting a Ti Pam and the 240 was the model I liked!

The seller mentioned this is actually a 41mm size HBB. for the gen, the subdial lyaout is different for the 41mm models with the running seconds at 3oclock, I believe.

I apologise too. Maybe my tone was a little harsh.

@Repfreak. Sorry, the graphix issue at RG was quite a pain and probably affected my mood. No hard feelings

Again, you do not read too well. Please read what I wrote. I mentioned your first post. The people who were not sympathetic probably just read your first post. Please read your first post objectively and t ell me honestly, what wold be your reaction.

As for RG, This is what you wrote:

Very disappointed in RG anyway when so many people said waste of 5 min of their life reading, hinting I am a cheapskate who cant afford a SD card..

To think I was a VIP there, and helping people out of their disputes... Most of them are looking for juicy news of watch scamming, when it is not, I am the result of such comments...

I had the admin there to close my thread anyway

Also, look at your heading. You know about the big scam incident at RG and you started with what at RG? " Damn, my turn to get conned!"

This will be my last reply to this. At the end of the day, your situation was aat worst, you met a slightly dishonest seller, if it was that as going by your first post, it doesn't seem to be the case. Also, your later post claiming the seller promised you this and that was only after the replies from other members about how this is not the case at all.

If you want to go deeper, I could be a [censored] and say the seller is not here to defend himself, you could say any damn thing you want! But let's not go there.

Two things,

Why the strong words on your header for the post? No matter how, it was not a "con job".

Secondly, coming here and complaining about members of another forum shows you are exactly that, a whiner.!

Its a small issue.. nvm.. I got so many people in RG who dont read the post properly, making me to look a cheapskate. The card was promised by him. I was more [censored] of his after service.

Very disappointed in RG anyway when so many people said waste of 5 min of their life reading, hinting I am a cheapskate who cant afford a SD card..

To think I was a VIP there, and helping people out of their disputes... Most of them are looking for juicy news of watch scamming, when it is not, I am the result of such comments...

I had the admin there to close my thread anyway...

Not the exact the best day of the week... Please dont call me to explain the issue anymore.. If you wish please search and read it in RG...

However, I appreicate the people here at least they read the post clearly before making a judgement.

I do not wish to talk anything more about my purchase... And thanks for the comments of my photo. If anyone can, do advise me on how to improve my shots... I think it looked grainy...

As a fellow Singaporean,

I hate to do this but you really sound like a whiner now. Come on, grow up. Why compare the feedbacks from different forums. You posted a thread and members are entitled to their opinion. Did you just expect good and feel good comments and if not, it's not a good forum and suddenly this place is better.

So if one day you post a thread here and the repsonse is not kind to you, I suppose you will be on RG saying that you are disappointed in RWG and RG is better is it?

I was one of those that responded to your thread on RG and like I said and I will say it here again. Your first post did not mention anything of a 2GB card, so why were you expecting it? You mentioned standard package, what is standard package?

You were promised a card, you got one, didn't you?

He got a free gift from the shop as he paid full price, he is not obliged to pass that to you. You did mention later in RG that he did promise. to give you the 2GB card. Great! so he was not keeping his part of the bargain but again, read your first post! You did not mention that

Please don't go around bad-mouthing members from other forums. You need to read your posts first!

When you start a thread, you need to expect all sorts of responses. Everyone is entitled to their opinions!

why?

they can always resell it

Yes but the risk tof completely dismantling the watch for repping purpose than re-assemble is a big risk to take for such an expensive watch!

This is reallly such a beautiful watch!

Sweeettt.....

hope it stays on ur wrist for a long time.

Er....well you know me bro!

Guys,

Just wanted to show my Pam 111H. As some might remember, there was an issue with a missing screw on the regulator but all is now fixed. My first wrist shot!

Really like this strap and buckle too! Please excuse the crappy pics!

Thanks for looking!

I have seen the 7753 powered Hamilton chronos very cheap on TZ Sales corner, like these one for 475USD, (it is a seller with low post count, though) and another for 750USD.:

hxxp://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=4215166&rid=0

hxxp://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=4020300&rid=0

(replace the "xx" with "tt")

@olorin: nice picture!

Great Price for a 7753.

I would guess a bit longer. Maybe between 8-10 days.

Congrats on your gen dial!

From what I could see at the AD the gen has a slightly lighter black color than the deep black Cartel dial. The DSN dial seemed more correct. Now that you can compare all three of them which one is the most accurate?

Does your gen dial have concentric circles in the subdial like the DSN dial?

How do the gen hands compare to the Cartel hands?

Hi

For dial colour, you seem to be right. The Cartel dial seems the darkest, followed by gen then DSN dial. As for the concentric circles, it is in the sub-dial but it looks finer than on DSN dial. From what I can see, it is more pronounced on the DSN dial whereas the circles on the gen dial are more fine and not as pronounced as on the DSN dial.

The rep hands are really quite good. Can't really tell the difference.

from all the above discussion i see the best rep alternative to GEN is the DSN Pam088 gmt.

For the dial , yes I thinnk DSN is better, but I think the CGs on the cartel is better. As for the hands, it would also seem that the cartel rep 88 hands are closer to gen though I have not really seen DSN hands except in pics!

As for Sander's question n whether the dial feet can fit Asian movement, I think it probably can as I was comparing the location of the dial feet on both DSN and gen dial and they look to be the same position and size.

Right! I would have taken the risk as well

I hope tih scan com out as nice as your BP project!

Just curious, did Panerai change the placement of the L swiss L to the same level of the 12 on later gen dials or are both the DSN and Ultimate wrong?

From what I understand, mine is the earlier version and the rep dials are the later versions. Both are right on the L swiss L placement.

Great parts man, it will be a wonderful franken one!

I have some questions:

Will those gen hands fit the asian movement?

Can you use the original dial feet with the asain movement?

Is it the picture or is there something wrong with the left side of the DSN sub-dial?

Very interesting project

Thanks.

Good questions! I am pretty sure the hands will fit except for the GMT one. That will be a question mark.

There is nothing wrong with the DSN dial, just the pics I suppose.

Not too sure how all these will work out but what the heck, have to give it a try, right?

Nice!

Your wife is a luckly woman!

I see that you have an E Series gen dial. The giveaway is the "L SWISS MADE L" is under the lower 12. Can't find a rep version like this... congratulations on a hard to find gen 88 dial!

Thanks! I am pretty excited by this too!

Hi Mark,

How's the beveling on the date windows? Can't really see from the angle photos were taken.

Congrats in being able to source for all these. Gonna be a beauty from the looks of things.

Cheers

Siesta181

Hi bro,

Sorry for my crappy pics. The bevelling on the DSN is good, just like gen. the one on the cartel dial is crap, there isn't any!

Hi guys,

Just received the gen dial and hand set for my Pam 88. I have taken some pics for a comparison shot on differences between the gen, DSN and rep dials. This is not a review but rather just a shot for everyone to see the difference and also offer any comments. I am in no position to do any review but would love to hear feedback from anyone especially the many Pam experts we have here!

First a shot of all 3 dials.

DSN dial on left, gen dial in the middle and the ultimate 88 from Cartel

Individual shots of the dials

DSN

gen dial

Ultimate version Pam 88

At first glance, there really isn't any difference (at least to me). I must say that both DSN and the cartel have really made a good dial. The only real difference would be the silver sub-dials. To me, the DSN is a bit too silverish, the cartel rep dial a bit too brownish. However, I believe that the DSN sub-dial is closer to gen.

Text printing is good on both rep dials. However, when compared to gen dial, the cartel printing is bolder and therefore more gen like. Maybe its the distortion from crystal but it seems the cartel rep dial text is a bit bigger than gen. DSN loses out in this prospect in the sense that the printing seems lighter.

For the date window, I think the DSN dial is really great! There is a nice beveling same as gen! The date-window on the cartel dial is terrible. To me, it looks like just a cuto-out without any bevelling.

Lume markers are very good on both DSN and cartel dial, very similar to gen. For me however, I think that DSN is a just a bit darker (greenish?) and the cartel markers are spot on!

It would seem that both DSN and rep dials are really good but if I had to chose between them, I would go with the DSN dial for the more accurate sub-dial and better DW bevelling.

Finally, a shot of my gen dial and hand set!

Now need to source for a few more parts and it will be off to The Zigmeister to make my Pam 88 into an ultimate franken!

Thanks for looking and would really welcome any comments and feedback.

Hi,

Has anyone ever bought the Piaget rep watches, especially the "Upstream". Would love to hear some feedback or opinions as I am contemplating getting one. Looks different and quite nice! Thanks!

This is the one watch I would want to see repped. GP Sea Hawk II. Good size 42mm. Looks good on rubber, leather and to me, one of the best bracelets! The grey dial looks fantatstic! Don't think its too difficult!

It's fine now.

I am!

Guys, please take pics and post them here!

Hi,

Unfortunately for me, I really can't make it! Was really hoping to meet you great guys, coolfire, samurai and all but unfortunately, the timing is bad! Will make it to the next one

Have a good time you guys! Really rather be going to this than the dinner that I will be going to!

With a Lello datewheel, I don't find the datewheel is an issue with my 089?

Now on a Chrono with a 7750 instead of a 7753 it is much more noticeable and a bigger (sunken datewheel) issue

Yes, your 89 looks quite good. So maybe a Lello DW should do the trick.

Absolutely agree, Lello's DWl makes all the difference, so sunken DW

is not an issue. And dluddy, the only thing to add to your overall beautiful

watch is the titanium T48 crown. 7750 stems with 1.2mm tap can be bought here

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEMS-25-Calibers-avai...1742.m153.l1262

will this stem wotk directly on a T48 crown. Does it need any adapter?