korneevy

Same sentiment here...after many years I feel these 47mm watches are better to be used as bedside clocks... haven’t woken them in years and when I look at my Pam collection, nothing gets me excited anymore..

Rep hands can be broached but don't expect them to stay solid for long, especially if you are using chrono; they start slipping and so don't reset properly as the quality of material (I assume it's brass) is not on part with gen iwc article . I paid $200 for my hen handset, far from reasonable but such as life and pricing nowadays

Links will be good, kind of lazy to go and google things for you. Rest of the Qs are well covered in ale's guide, read up and pull the trigger;)

Reflection. Ignore it.

Why buy exact same piece from a middle man if you can just as easily source from David Sen directly? David is easy to deal with, and while I won't buy any of his watches anymore due to low quality, I will be the first one to say he is a great and friendly dealer I work with, and will fix issues and supply spares without questions asked, as long as you understand what you are getting, that is. Just shoot him an email and I am sure he carries 024/025 that you can pick up from him.

Actually that is just what I did, I already had a M2M 029 incoming. I was interested in one with the sec @9 like the 88 or the "ghost" but after reading about potential problems with the modified A7750 movements, I decided that I would stick to the 2836 models. Maybe older models, but less drama!!!

Thanks for the help.

I've had 237, 088 and never ever had any issues with the movements, but in any case with most reps it is cheaper and easier to buy a new watch then bother fixing those Chinese movements, and most watchmakers wouldn't touch them with a stick, so why all the drama? You are spending $300ish on a fake, wear it while it runs and bin it when it dies, no stress;) most of these Chinese valjoux will run for a few years and some for a decade but you do get a lemon everynow and then, nature of the hobby...

Go with 029, best auto rep for sure and quite a looker...some time ago they were selling with Swiss movements but fairly expensive, and since GMT module is still Chinese made, makes little sense to me to spend that kind of cash so just go with Asian clone and swap the movement is it craps, easy;)

the 082 dials are ready for sale.

rolli

+1. A new thread with proper photos will be great!

DSN

They won't come with proper engravings, so to me there's no point of buying a new movement as it kills the romance (not the math) of buying a rep.

My watch smith charged $80 for the repair is because he was sure he had a gen in his hands.

And for two simple reasons, I believe. First because he sold me half a dozen gens for the past 10 years, so an 8k Panerai was no surprise to him (he was not searching for flaws as we do here).

Second, and most important, this replicas are absolutely AMAZING and able to trick the most experienced and talented WS/AD and I do not mean to ruin that for a couple bucks. Oh, yeah, he retired 3 years ago and opened his own repair center.

I could obviously replace the movement, like a flat tire.

And thank you but I'm looking for a more elaborate input on the matter, that is, if anyone ever had similar issues and even care to share at all.

All the best mate.

No disrespect..but two points:

- that Rad has a closed caseback, so who cares if the movement is engraved or not?

- if your watchmaker can't see that he has an Asian copy of Unitas when working on it, you need to find another watchmaker, and quick. If you ever try your luck and work on disassembly of Asian copy vs Swiss, and then try to put them both together, you will know what I mean. I am not watch smith by any degree of imagination, but I tinker enough with unitas movements to be able to tell the difference without any issue, unless it is swinese etc.

As others said, just get a replacement movement for $50 or better still, get the whole new watch and keep this one for spares as with reps you will def need some sooner or later...this is still 800$ cheaper as compared to Panerai doing service on gen version of that watch.

Happened to me with Noob 243 as well. Stem is too long and the CG does not have enough space for you to pull the stem out into time setting position, that's all. You will need to shorten the stem, very very carefully me it will be ok then.

I thought both the 036 and 082 were provided with calibre OP II movements. Aren't these Swiss Unitas with engraved bridges? It would be awesome to have a set of engraved bridges but you would only see them with the back off. For now the bridges would be wrong but there should be bunches of these.

I may build one of these two but I'm with you Korneevy, can't wait for Rollie to roll out the 201a!

Pam 036 has a transparent case back , and unless you get the bridges it will be fairly obvious fake. I don't see the point of spending serious cash on Rolli dial and then have something as obvious as wrong movement. 082 is solid caseback, but the case was only done by DSN ( not sure if he still makes them through) and was quite a so-so quality, with poor engravings so also a no-go if you want to have a top quality project. So 201a it is;)

Good news Rolli. Interesting that due to lack of any OP update, this thread is now becoming more focused on Rollis project:) I'd love to build both 082 and 036 but I am afraid it is almost impossible...there are no accurate cases for 082 (sans DNS but it is of low quality...) and 036 has a movement that can not be obtained or build off any existing models, so sadly it won't be something I am interested in. 201a will be on my list for sure...

I am out. No comms, no updates, no proper photos of the offered product... Too much hassle for what it is, I know the guy tried to do his best but it seems like he is not up for the task and for 100$+ I'd rather wait for someone a bit more professional/capable of managing it to come along...

Show the movement, that's your only ticket to knowing

Release time, Rolli?

H3

Is it still happening?

Same thoughts re: 201, the font is off, unfortunately...v1 was much better.

201 and 202 photos are not displaying:(((

Seems like this has gone cold... In absence iPod any news, I figured I play with this old dial and just finished my 201A build today...great change of color under direct light, loving it... Still up for another 201, so get us some news, SD!

Great looking dial...even considering its price, it is worthwhile for a grail build...thats why Rollie - you must produce proper 201A dial now using the same technology:) Moreover, I ill be in for pre-A non-base dials as well, just have too many base PAMs already...

Now we only need to get SD to check in with an update, looks look he is the only one missing in his own thread

looks great! Looking forward to hear more from SD - when is the rest of 202a will be ready?

looks amazing

you will get a PM

rolli

It does look good indeed...wish it were preV or preA dials though, as otherwise finding it hard to justify that sort of investment in just one part of the build.

Anyways- back to OP: any updates on 202a status? Timeline? HQ photos?