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Knowing your pedantic fastidiousness, I would be grateful if you don't take it apart in your post my bro.

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Alright, first and foremost, I have obtained permission from the management crew to post this. I am going to offer a run of 10 modded AP ROO divers. Of course, I understand that these mods are not exclusive to me, nor would I be turning down requests for the jobs to be done for watches purchased from elsewhere and sent to me, but here is your chance to get a nice diver and save some money guys. Details as follows: Base watch: Brand new JF V7 diver OR Noob V5.1 diver (about $350) Mods: 1. ETA low beat movement conversion (21,600 bph), with full service and regulation 2. Double AR crystal 3. Bezel screws alignment and recess 4. Waterpoof and pressure test to 6atm 5. Mk1 Cyclop mod for 1:1 date mag The total cost of the watch plus mods would be around USD970 excluding shipping. I would be offering a brand new, fully modded watch with ETA movement, and shipping, for RWG members only, for a discounted price of USD890.00, for a limited run of 10 watches. Kindly PM me if you are interested, and I would take your order accordingly. The waiting time would be about 3-4 weeks for each watch upon confirmation of order. Thank you for your interest.

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Haha time travel is indeed tricky. It would depend on whether: a. He travelled into the future and there he encounters another, 1 year older version of himself who ate the chicken taco. This would also prove that at each separate moment, there is a different self that continues our existence from our "current moment" self. b. He travelled into the future and it was him who ate it, with no alternative future self. Theoretically, if the scenario is a, then he would not, because the chicken taco went down a different set of oesophagus and gullet and stomach. If the scenario is a, and he went back into the present, it would mean that he had not eaten the chicken taco yet, so he could not remember something that has not yet occurred. But suppose that the chicken taco meal remains in his memory, it would mean that the event occurred in the past, which contradicts the fact that it happened (or would be happening) in the future. Conclusion, next time, pick the beef taco instead. It has more protein vs the chicken taco and much more memorable.

Ah, there you are! I learnt about the inner bezel differences from you Mr Diver Guru. Thank you for educating me.

Oh my... thats not helping the quandary much D..

Suppose time travel was possible, and a man goes back 1 year in the past, after having fried chicken steak for lunch. So should he say "I just had fried chicken steak 5min ago" or "I would be having fried chicken steak one year from now"?

LOL.. Mike, what naughty thing have you done my friend?

It is good to see this thread being revived. It is the most open-ended thread in the entire forum.

Anytime for you A. For your watch, you might wish to consider: - double AR xtal - double AR cyclop - relume hour hand, and see if the black lines could be thinned... And then, yes, you WOULD be very happy indeed brother.

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When it comes to a matter of personal taste and preference, you have to decide on your own, for specific models etc. You are going to get many different answers if you post models and ask for opinions. And even if the general consensus choice falls on one watch, it still may not be what you are after ultimately. But accuracy wise, I could tell you not to mind the caseback too much if you want an AP replica.. even with the decorated plates, the movement would look less ugly, but still miles off from the gen in terms of details. Who will look at your caseback anyway when you wear the watch out? I would be more worried if the dial of the watch is acceptable, rather than the caseback. BTW, Connie is a wonderful dealer, I am using her, for 5 years now. Not the best website for sure, but ultimately what you want is the correct watch and excellent service and you can find both with Kingwatch.

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Roger Mike. Sending it to a USA based watchsmith, or even a European one, would still be nearer.

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Well summarized A. In general, the diver series are well repped, even taking into consideration all the minor flaws, and when compared against the ROO and 15400 rep counterparts. Yes the divers are not perfect, but neither are the flaws egregious. Even for the most fastidious of us, must give grudging acknowledgement that the factories have done a commendable job in producing the diver reps, especially for the more recent versions. Among the 3 mainstream diver models (SS, FC, and ceramic), the FC is the most accurate one in general in my opinion, going by the inner bezel numbers. My friend Folex has painstaking educated me on the differences, and minute as they are, there ARE differences in the size and style of the inner bezel numbers. The FC is the most accurate one in terms of size, spacing and style of the numbers, especially the "0"s. The dial of the rep FC diver does mimic, to a good extent, the details on the gen dial. The rep dial can be further improved by applying gloss over it, or by a double AR. The double AR accentuates the details of the FC dial to a surprising level, but would also magnify the tiny imperfections in that specific dial which it is paired with. One must never forget, that variances do exist even in the genuine watches. The dial of one genuine watch would be more glossy or matte than another. I would not personally not call out a rep based on dial finishing alone, but I am not the most discerning among my peers. Bezel screws There is a persistent and pervasive fallacy that all gen AP diver bezel screws are evenly and beautifully sunken. From what I have witnessed, that is concretely not the case. I have seen non-sunken screws, as well as unevenly sunken screws on genuine divers. I have also seen screws, that for some unfathomable reason, are beaten up worse than a V3 diver. Generally, the screws are well-polished, have good alignment, and just a tad sunken, yes. But the rep screws can be improved via DIY treatment to emulate the gen ones well. The cyclop, and its AR and magnification I agree with panerai153 that the magnification of the date is not exact. But this is an easy and straightforward fix for me..The movement in the genuine diver is an AP caliber 3120, a non-chrono and single module version of the AP ROO. There is no depth issue with the datewheel like in the ROO reps, as the A2824 movement used in the reps have the same datewheel depth as the A3120 movement used in the gen. Therefore, the datewheel magnification mod, if required, is through a replacement of the cyclop. The Mark1 cyclop I offer would solve this issue. The gen numbers are ever so slightly taller, but the difference is subtle and not salient like in their rep ROO counterparts, due to the absence of an additional DD module in between for the rep. Date fonts are good on the Noob variants, and plain ugly on the JF ones. The hour hand The hour hand in the Noob v1-3, and JF V5 still puzzles me. Why the mystical grey used? It does not make sense, to use grey lume for the hand and white lume for the rest of the dial markers. In addition, the black separator lines on the Noob v1-3 are thicker and more pronounced than the genuine. This is an abject replication failure IMHO, because it takes no special skills to produce an hour hand with white lume and thin black lines. This flaw was corrected in the Noob V4, along with the inclusion of a double AR cyclop and "super clear single AR" crystal. The Noob V4 is sadly out of stock the last I checked. The case I would not go into a lengthy debate on the accuracy of the case, because to be honest, it looks accurate enough, especially in black FC finish. Sure, there could be a slightly wrong angled line here, a corner there, but overall, the watch case is well constructed and nobody would call you out on the shape of the case. The marbling on the Noob V4 is very nice, and slightly glossy, and an improvement over the already presentable V3. The V3 case CAN be polished to make the marbling effect more outstanding, I have seen it being done. On the genuine watches, the marbling differs for individual watches due to the organic nature of the FC material. The AR Despite factory claims by both Noob and JF, the crystals used in both are still slightly less clear when compared with the genuine. Sure, the genuine watch does not have double AR. But what is has is a very superior single AR on the underside of the crystal. The AR on the rep Noob V4 (and JF V5) are both good, and the best among the various iterations, but I would recommend a double AR purely for the aesthetics purpose of accentuating the dial details, and not necessary for accuracy. The Inner bezel This is where no rep maker has gotten it right. Close yes, but no cookie. Yes the rep and gen inner bezel numbers do look close in pictures, but the lume construction of the numbers are different for gen, with a defined white border base upon which the lume is constructed, and forms the "puff" of the numbers we see. The border is well defined in the gen, and replicated to varying degrees in each individual rep diver. There is no consistency for this aspect in the rep watches, and one watch can differ from another to a drastic extent, if you know where to look. Therefore, caution is advised during the QC process if buying the FC, or other versions of the diver. Conclusion No, it is not 1:1, no replica watch truly is. But it is a very good rep of the genuine watch. It is a watch where the beauty and details would abrogate the small flaws consistently. The recent versions are already good out of the box, but can be modified to a more impressive level. I would definitely advocate the FC model if only one is to be owned. It is sporty, light, and rather stealth looking, if not for the bold dash of yellow in the inner bezel. It was almost as though the color was put in as an afterthought to bring it to life, and insert a breath of vibrance into it. If you are lucky enough to get your hands on a Noob V4, that is currently the best model to be released in the rep world to date. But I do foresee Noob releasing a new model soon for the FC diver, not because of our gripes, but to further milk the market for more money of course. A parting wristshot of my modded FC. It is acceptable to me, and a very good choice of a daily beater.

Where are you based? I would not recommend sending it back to China given the customs risks AND long wait.

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I ordered a unique set of straps and buckle for my bronzo and well, a picture speaks a thousand words... Message crafted while wrestling a juvenile crocodile that's unwilling to be captured and made into leather

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Oh wow that was fast AJ. Looks fantastic on you mate. Base watch: noob v2 rose gold GP w forged carbon parts. The best version of the gp to date and long unavailable from dealers. Mods list: - serviced w ETA main spring, 50hrs PR - double AR crystal - ETA black datewheel - mk2 cyclops Enjoy her in good health and wear her well my friend. Message crafted while wrestling a juvenile crocodile that's unwilling to be captured and made into leather

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