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That piece shown by jamguaid, which @ceejay kindly showed you as an example of what is possible, is far from perfect btw. Takes about 3 seconds tops to call it out as non-genuine.

I agree with Tompa on what he said about rep ROOs. Actually, Tompa has the best attitude toward these AP reps among all the members which I have seen. And he is a prolific collector of AP reps, he practices what he says.. don't try to fool anyone into thinking you are wearing a gen AP, because you aren't even if its a modded rep or franken. The list of flaws you mentioned can be taken care of superficially by mods yes, there will STILL be visual differences if you know your APs. Ultimately, rep APs are nice watches to wear for your own entertainment, but do not for a second pretend that they are gen, or try to misrepresent them as such. They are not easy to rep or mod well, and even the so called "frankens" have tells which a learned enthusiast can call out.

What matters isn't who is right or wrong in the matter actually, but rather, we can collectively learn about the progress in this hobby. This is an example of the Noob daytona with the clone 4130 movement. https://puretimewatch.io/featured-products/daytona-116509-ss-noob-1-1-best-edition-904l-ss-case-and-bracelet-silver-dial-sa4130-v3.html I am impressed with the evolution of the movements used in this hobby. This is, like I said, one of the best, if not the best thing to happen to the hobby in many years. Not feasible in terms of cost. Each time the movement has to be dismantled to fit on and align the gen parts, labour cost will be incurred, and the watch movement may need to be recalibrated/serviced/regulated to keep its running form. It is better to do it all in one go.

Not true. The chinese offers the clone 4130 movement now, and it is likely the best thing to happen to the hobby in the past decade. It is surprisingly reliable and precise after a proper service. You can also buy gen 4130 movement parts relatively easily. Total cost, depending on how many gen parts you intend to put in it, will be between $800-4500. You do not need a 100% gen 4130 cal. But for the parts that matter, $2000 will be sufficient to purchase all the parts and do the build.

Nobody is picking on you jollyroger1. Let’s look at the simple facts. 1. You called out macarone for hazing you when he wasn’t. If the accusation was made in public instead of PMs, then your apology should be made in the same way. 2. Being new or otherwise does not excuse anyone from common human decency. Learn to say thank you when help is given. Gratitude goes a lot further than whining, anywhere in the world. 3. Thank you for sharing your story. I think that I agree with macarone that it’s the kind of post which lets others understand and interact with you better. Welcome! 4. Panerai153 and I are moderators here as we pointed out. We like to see new member participation and we are not here to pick on the new guys, it is simply contrary to what we do around here. 5. Rest assured that we will do what we can for you, but please treat the members here with courtesy too. I can assure you again that most members you find here are decent folks and guys we know well. I can defend macarone simply because he has a known history here and we value his contributions, and not because you’re newer than him. Stick around, and interact with the community. You come across as a guy with a story just like the rest of us and we do welcome you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well looks like another classic case of a newbie joining just to get help, and kicking up a fuss when he encounters difficulties. The result is always the same: you get a thankless silent departure. Lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Take it easy. 1. Firstly you do not post a WTB here. Wrong section. 2. Macarone is a legit and established member here. He did not haze you nor was he toying with you in any way. The issues of accessing the links he provided lay purely on your end, as I could access them and I saw the watches he mentioned. Following the posts I can understand your frustration but Macarone did nothing wrong. I believe that this being a gentlemen’s forum, you owe an apology to him as he was sincerely trying to help you. We welcome you here. But do show patience and courtesy especially if you’re new. Nobody was trying to jerk you around. I suggest you download the Tapatalk app, it can be very useful too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you can pick just one, then ZF and refine the bracelet a little. If you do not have the constraint of choice, then a JF +ZF hybrid will be ideal.

From the dial, case thickness and date font. I’m pretty sure it’s not a ZF. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is neither a ZF nor a Noob. It is a JF and looking at the dial, a V3.

Hey can you explain why interaktiv was being racist? I read his comment and found it harmless. Also talking about “small penis issues” and asking him to “crawl back to your swamp” are both abusive and uncalled for. You need to tone it down and also apologize to him. I found nothing racist about his comment. If I am missing something please feel free to educate me. Thank you.

Our lives are like our homes: From time to time, we have to declutter and keep them clean. The garbage have to be thrown out, and likewise for items which are toxic, contaminated, or no longer meaningful to have around.

I don't see the need for anyone to be judged based on employment status, number of watches owned, bank account size or anything for that matter. You are welcome as long as you respect the rules and enjoy the community and the knowledge found within.

It is an excellent choice and visually a super rep. But the movement used in this is wrong, the P.9010 clone (used in the 47mm subs) instead of the OPXXXIV (quick date set). They should have used the 7750 movement in here lol, the function would have been identical.

So are you saying that the PN could be gen but with an aftermarket dial? I am asking for the sake of learning. I am not an expert and will refrain from commenting on the authenticity of the dials/watches.