By-Tor

Cool thread. How come I have missed this one...???!!! Let's add a few cool Omegas (you guessed it, right?) This is a quartz but the picture is nice: Ugly as hell...but cool.

Mine used to look like this:

As usual fantastic pictures Bazz. This is one of the best rep shots I've seen. You're getting better and better!!!

That's an obvious fake.

Ditto. The best combination without a doubt.

Yeah, I probably need to buy the gen soon.

You obviously aren't looking hard enough. http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=432 @Relaxman: Love that black/red.

PM Davey. He's in UK and I'm sure he could handle this.

PS: Added this link to my PO reference guide. Excellent work.

Let's make it 3:2. This since Friday. Oops, let's use another photo instead (to avoid boredom).

Yeah, I read about this model somewhere. I think it sure is "interesting"...but also one of the ugliest watches I've ever seen. That TT bracelet really does the "trick".

It's all about making money... and this is a clever way to make some money from reps legally. Reps are becoming more and more "mainstream" all the time. Our members take their reps to ADs and show them how good they are (we hear stories about this every day), they post rep pictures to genuine watch forums, etc. Very stupid (imho) and definitely bad for our hobby... But most of the Internet sites dealing with reps are scam. I believe it's difficult for average Joes to find truthful information about reps, and see the difference between good and useful info (like Richard's book) and total scam (like Idealwatches/Replicacenter, which is ironically linked at Richard's page). But I agree with you, reps becoming "mainstream" isn't good for anyone...in the long run. But what can you do, it's moving towards that, more and more every day... until EU and USA can invest time and effort to make the customs thing more difficult for the dealers and us. I believe it's going to happen... it's only a matter of time... when the reps become disturbingly good (it has already happened) and volumes of rep traffic increase enough (I believe it's increasing all the time). Difficult to say bad things about someone like Richard, who's a knowledgeable veteran member and his book is full of good information... but it won't change the fact that his book is also public replica promotion for the masses, disguised as something else. It would be interesting to know what Rolex, Swatch and Richemont group think about it.

Yes, we are well aware of virtual Internet s*itholes like that...using pictures of genuine watches and pose them as reps, using terms like "Swiss Made", "Italian Made", etc. So typical. I think if people were able to find this forum they wouldn't fall for such amateurish scam sites anymore. Web is full of them.

Just to bump this old thread... found a new shot of my favourite TAG.

I think it's genuine...or a frankenproject.

The best resource to compare vintage models to gens is here: http://catalog.antiquorum.com/catalog.html Put "Rolex chronograph" to the search string and try to find this model.

Perhaps not. But it still amazes me how the factories can sometimes make absolutely ridiculous errors... like put out EXTREMELY inaccurate reps of some very, very popular watch models... like install utterly HORRIBLE dial to the new generation GMT Master. There are about 2 billion pictures of this watch all over the Internet (so it can't be the lack of source material)... and then come up with virtually PERFECT replica from rather obscure model like the new TAG Link Chronograph. This happened with the first try. Maybe just a different factory then?

I think Bigsy had a point too, perhaps he could learn some manners though. This was almost going to an interesting discussion but then the flames and personal insults started to fly (as usual). Come on guys, we can do better than that...we're all in the same boat... and things aren't so black and white. I think Andrew got pissed off because some of the comments made about the new PO Chronograph. I perfectly understand his POV... but I also understand the members who watched from the sidelines when 10 new generations of Planet Ocean surfaced last year (each version better than the previous one). And after a year we finally got almost perfect version (4th gen). Andrew himself was the first one to sell this model! And now these same members should buy very inaccurate quartz version of the PO Chronograph, especially when we get FANTASTIC 7750-based 1st generation versions from MUCH LESS popular watches like TAG Link Chrono and Breitling Bentley...at the same time. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that the better version of the PO Chrono is already in production somewhere. There MIGHT be some truth in the theory that factories put some inaccuracies there INTENTIONALLY... just to resell the next better version again... to the same people. I'm saying that versions like this simply WON'T SELL here. I really feel for our good dealers who need to move these items, but we're spoiled, badly. We've seen so many FANTASTIC replicas... and we have so many FANTASTIC replicas to choose from already. Nothing to take away from the dealers, I think we're extremely fortunate that we have access to these fine watches. But no matter how much respect we have... most members simply don't buy reps like that (especially from mainstream brands like Omega or Rolex). Personally, I'm not anal about the flaws and I think there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with quartz-powered quality replicas. Sadly, most of the members here don't think that way... and quartz powered replicas often aren't done in the same quality as their more expensive automatic brothers. Again, we want the best quality because that's what we have been accustomed to. I don't think there's anyone to blame for that situation, it's just the fact. Why not discuss this thing like adults... try to figure out solutions together... instead of lowering ourselves to fruitless flamewars?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb6q5h4sp2M&search=rolex

Good find Ryya. Rumor has it that this guy was his father. Can someone confirm this?

Reps. Scam. Junk. Run away. End of transmission. What a beaty Dweller... NOT!

Excellent work Cwai. I'm quite satisfied with the 4th gen as it is... but the real hardcore modders appreciate info like this I'm sure. PS: Psychomodo/Falconetti: Great to see you here my friend...at last. Where have you been?

I doubt it. This has the best cg's (spiky and thin) I've ever seen...and superb dial (for once the SUBMARINER text/font looks right). This one takes TT Subs to another level. True, the insert is probably too dark and it would be nice to see the dial color in daylight. But very difficult to call out a rep...even for us.

Sounds great. GMT, the beach... but it would sound even better _without_ the wifey.

4th Gen PO for me. I'm still impressed with this rep, it's just so amazing!!!