Jkay,
In your opinion, if a bk mariner is 8.0 out of 10, where would the noobfactory mariner rate?
Also the link you provide for noobfactory at ts, cost about $187. Is there a any significant difference between the $187 model (http://www.timesshop.net/6417-rwi-promotionro6524-rolex-submariner-black-ss-noobfactory-swiss-eta-2836.html) vs the $278 model (http://www.timesshop.net/8190-ro9485-rolex-submariner-black-ceramic-bezel-perfect-swiss-eta-2836-2.html) ???
Thanks for your input.