Just to clarify, the "UPO Lite" is no longer available. It was a limited run done by Josh and Andrew, and they are all gone. Angus (Puretime) has now marketed an "UPO Lite", but it is NOT anywhere close to the J&A version. It lacks, sapphire, AR, SNs on the case, Steel movement holder, anti magnetic sheild, and doesn't have the proper crown. To insinuate that this watch is in any way "Ultimate" is just another little white lie IMO. That said, at less than $100 its probably a nice "beater" watch.