Estaban

I'm with Neil on this one. You did a number on that watch! Talk to Angus about getting a new case.

I have a set of markers (unfortunately only one oval) and one missing on my 187. I tried to glue the marker with JB Weld, a metal epoxy, and it didn't work. Metalset A4 is supposed to be a good product per Rob (The Zigmeister).

The missing marker doesn't really bother me too much. Many owners of gen 187s have missing markers too. They are white gold and about $60 a piece. Skip it.

I do think you went a little overboard on your refinishing project!

BTW- your date font/window looks very good for a 7750 based 187.

Great watch

Hi everyone. Just thought I'd post some pics of the watch the came in the mail for me today - a gorgeous 114g with mods done by flava flav. This may be my favorite pam...

Great looking watch. Is that crown guard orignal? Who's the watch from orignially?

Damn is that a fine watch-nice combo

Thanks! I think it's a swell combo too!

Vic,

Nice breakdown of your strap obsession. I've owned my share of straps too. Probably 50 of various makes and models. I've narrowed down my collection considerably. I find that I wear different straps for different activities. I'll never wear a velcro strap on a Panerai! I found that I didn't need (or want) five different shades of tan

I guess right now I'm pleased to have a great quality black Horween cordovan, a Woj Tan with white stitch, an Augergine Bob Gator, a SS bracelet, a rubber on deploy, and my favorite special strap, a white and black non-polished ray for my 44mm (only 24/24 for me) and a Don Hammer, rubber, and Europelli Bomber for my 47mm. A nice black 26/26 and a nice light tan 26/26 would round out my collection perfectly. Gone are all the others. Fancy makers don't really do much for me. Paying $200 for a leather strap is ridiculous (Kaktus). I'm probably one of the few that dislike Greg straps.

My top three strap makers that balance quality with $$ are Don's Historic line, Wojtecki, and Bob's Vertigo Line.

My top three overall are Mario Paci, Strapmaster, Don's Historic.

Love this combo

Stingray is custom made by an unknown maker. 6mm thick at the lugs. 4mm thick at the tip. Super soft. Cool pearl pattern. Lots of compliments on this one.

Not the best picture, but you get the idea.

Looks awesome Kruz. I'm wearing my 187 today. When I get around to it I'm going to send it off to The Zigmeister for a relume.

My question is: Is there a way of raising the movement so the date is closer to the window? Maybe the back of the dial can be "thinned" to make the date closer?

I love the watch but can't see dropping a $300 movement in it to make it right.

Thanks for sharing your masterpiece from the master.

Lets get the word out about a Chitown get together then...

I too would like to do this. Lets resurrect this idea!

This combo works out well on gym days.

Here you go. I don't wear my pams on bracelets very often. I would say it's my "blingyest look.

I used to wear my Arktos on a bracelet once in a while. 250 grams of watch. Hefty!!

Go for it!

My IWC Ingenieur passed with flying colors at Tourneau in Chicago. The were doing everything except shining my shoes. I think my Ingy was the best one out of the box that I'd seen. Great AR, datefont, and dial. Sold it

I ususally don't do stuff like that. It was a whim.

I don't want to become the resident DSN basher here, but I would never accept a watch with the swiss made printed that close to the 6. It actually looks like some of the printing is chopped off. It astounds me that DSN would send out a watch with that glaring fault.

If it was me, I would have sent the watch back the same day.

I love being able to throw a rubber on

I like wearing a bracelet too.

I've got a drawer full a straps.

Variety is the spice of life.

The Radiomir line is too dressy for me, and vintage does nothing for me.

I buy watches to wear them,

Hey Estaban,

just out of curiosity ,because you've mentioned it,like many others in here,how come a purely action piece like the Radiomir became a mutant dress watch?

And I agree with you fully,that watches are for the wearing , not for museum like exhibits.

I guess the Radiomir line really isn't a dress watch, but it does have more flowing lines than other Pams. The fact that some come in rose gold and platinum and it should have a nice tapered strap (27/22) makes it seem dressy.

Mutant it's not. I like the look. Dressy it is. Therefore it's not for me.

The 092 is one of my faves. I wore mine almost daily for over a year. Surprisingly works with a lot of different straps.

The only thing loose on my Arktos was the bezel. I think they all suffer from that. I wonder why the Arktos has this problem but my 187 clicks like a gen.

112h would be only other choice. I've owned/currently own the following Pams over the past 3+ years:

111g, 111h, 005, 029, 063, 092, 187, 036 and a 196.

I currently have a fully modded 111h and a 187. The only two watches that I would add to my collection would be a 113 or possibly a 127. Pam 44mm subs do nothing for me (although I do like the Arktos, which is sub-like). The Radiomir line is too dressy for me, and vintage does nothing for me.

I buy watches to wear them, not look at them and drool over them. I have the means to own dozens of watches. I prefer to have a handful of watches that fit different roles:

Swimming, washing the car, sporting events where it might rain---Breitling SFSO

Comfy watch for hiking, tossing the football around, and road trips--Bell and Ross Instrument PVD

Showing off how big a watch can be and looking macho--187

Being stylish in any situation---Fully modded 111h

I'm not into flash, so these seem to fit my lifestyle.

Longwinded soliloqy, but it got me to thinking.

111h

Looks good but the crown appears to be too far from the case with the crown guard lever closed.

Nice review. I too owned a Santos 100 as one of my first reps. I had two acutally (one ss, one tt). The watches were very nice and quite large. The pam bug bit and they never saw my wrist again. I liked the clasp, but the straps were pretty bad (one black, one bordeaux).

The chrono looks pretty similar. I nice BIG dress watch for sure.

Enjoy

Here is what a modded 111h should look like.

I can't help but show off when I've got the goods. The dial is not quite as thick as the DSN, but the font is perfect and the swiss made is not out of place by the 6.

This is a Palp crown for your reference.

Couldn't agree more with both statements.

I'd say find yourself a good DSN model and stick to it. The thing is - you have to "be there, at the right moment" and snap it up quickly. DSN has limited production runs and availability of his products, and availability good DSN watches/parts doesn't last forever. Remember his ver.1 5218-201a, 202, 203, Slytecs, T-dials with high horizontal bars on letter "A"...his second ver pre-A 002, 10/114 dial etc.

As for the "DSN" buckle (it's actually not "his own" bespoke buckle), agree again, while not historically correct it's very nice and makes a good fit and alternative to OEM-rep ones, heck even renowned strap makers like Greg Stevenson use these buckles (different engraving, though) on his top straps...and those hard-core gen Paneristi seem love them, nevertheless

stay well and keep your eyes peeled

babola

I couldn't agree less with both statements. A Paneristi who saw that buckle would laugh. It's horrible. Inaccurate shape and 3rd grader engraving. No aftermarket strap maker would use such a buckle. There are countless aftermarket makers of buckles who do a much better job with the shape (Bob, Don, Europelli, .....).

I think DSN trys hard to get his watches right, but can't seem to get his dials right. I step forward, two steps back. Quality control seems to be an issue too. Shouldn't happen with custom watches ever. I'd rather go with a dealer who gets it right the first time.

This experience confirms that I will never buy a rep from Davidsen. What kind of business does he run? You don't send out a used watch that someone else didn't want and report it as new.

Horrible.

His pre-v buckles are hilarous.

I'll play

Today

Tomorrow except on velcro (so comfortable!!)

Hump day

Some evening, but on a very special strap---Don "Hammer" in historic brown.

Awesome watch. That AR is strong! Crown doesn't look that bad.

Wear it well!

notice any difference in your crown and this one??

You might consider a thicker crown that sits more flush on the case...but yours looks very very good

Plus look at the spacing on 'LSwissL' between the number six and lettering

I'm with DuDro on the engraving as well-The overall finish of the caseback and mov is excellent

Hey, I recognize that watch. It's on my wrist right now with a tan Wojekski strap. That's nice!

I have to agree with this statement. It appears to be a fine watch and all, but at the price that two in the twelve would haunt me every time I looked at the watch.

The crown bothers me and the buckle looks like Canal Street stuff.

I don't get DSN watches. You buy a "custom" made watch and it has more flaws than a standard rep.