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Thank you for your help. I am going to look for a nice insert. hopefully new insert will solve the crytal height problem. chieftang, 'TW Best' is the one River and Josh are selling as far as I know. It is different from the old TW sub. One more question. I read that noobmariner dial is really good and i am gonna change my dial soon. Will the cyclop be on the right spot with new dial? If anyone try it, please let me know! Thanks

Hi, I just bought TW sub and at first I was little bit disappointed because crystal doesn't sit high like other members' subs. So I just pushed it down with fingers. If I do that, it makes click sound and crystal looks high. But then bezel goes up again in a minute. So I disassembled the watch as I learned here trying to fix the bezel and also checking the movement. It doesn't have a 0-ring inside the watch (Is it ok without???) Anyway I put things back together and still bezel doesn't stay down. How would you fix this to have a nice crystal all the time?

Wow, what a nice sub family!!! After reading your TW best sub review, I ordered one from River last night. It will be my third rep so far and I hope I will receive as nice sub as yours. How is TW best's cyclop? Do you think TW best has cyclop placed correctly like noobmariner? I couldn't tell from the picture. I am going to order a noobmariner later and change the bracelet(dial as well maybe...) and bezel like yours. Then I will probably ask the same question, right? "What can I do now with 2 Subs?" Your pictures make me wanna spend more and more money... Thanks for your reviews