I bought the black sub from Andrew that is very good quality. I knocked the pearl out of the bezal and could not find it so I contacted Andrew to buy another one and he sent me one free.. As far as I am concerned he is the best and has some of the best watches you will find. Sign up for his news letters and he will send you emails with the newest watches in stock along with info about them. When you order from him he will send you pictures of the watch you will get before sending it for you to approve . He must never sleep because when you email him he responds right away. I have only good things to say about him and his products.