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NEW PICS OF PHONG CASESET: quote $1400 I must say comunication with Phong has been very good he answers emails in a timely manner while the case is definatly the most expensive option Im kinda feeling this choice since i believe that they come from Arizona at least thats what the contact info says ( correct me if im wrong plz) so forseable shiping and return problems should be less. Also I like that he offers Vintage finishes im new to the whole watchmaking thing and while I can take apart and rebuild a watch ( not the move =)) Im not yet at the point of polishing buffing and doing antique finishes to SS cases so for me It a big deal specialy since I can order the braclet and have him match the finish for a more uniform look. Another plus is that he garantees case to be waterproof/resistant as well as to fit gen parts if need be. I WOULD REALLYU APPREATIATE ANY LAST MINUTE ADVICE COMENTS ECT AS TO THIS CASE BEFORE I DROP $1400 ON PLZ. also any coments on the crystal and crown ect. as far as if its worth repalcing with authentic in comp to what is seen in the pics above. Thank You all for your time and comments and advice I really appretiate it and I hope this thread helps others embarking on a similar projet aswell =) .

HEARD BACK FROM MINH HERES HIS RESPONSE: Hello, The best price for one set case 6538 is 900USD including shipping free, we can make engrave the serial your request no. We looking forward to having business with you. Thanks Best regards Minh Quy While the price seems good I m a little confused if his answer to if he engraves serials on request was no lol, seems like a standard thing all supliers do but it appears as his answer is no . Also dunno about ordering from vietnam im a little on the fence as far as shiping time and posible return times if theres a problem but the price is definatly sweet for the quality, Yuki quoted me $800. Just thought id give you all aheads up foir anyone else whos thinking of doing a similar project.

Thxs woof yea i found it wierd that chrono was asosiated to minh lol thanks for the heads up i emailed him again through his site contact interface thxs again

Here are some pics of the MQ case ill get back with the quote when he emails me back: Case website has more pics : http://www.chrono24....7&watchTypeId=Z Another thing I need to keep in mind is that Phongs case comes from Arizona and MQs from Vietnam im living in Central America atm so waiting for something from Vietnam could take upto a month and if i need to send back could be a shiping nightmare for me interms of time =((

WOW Torresp im at at lost for words truely amazing I dare to say that it came out better than some gens Ive see on TRF & VRF spectacular 6538 ! I was not savy to Minh Q I found their website and emailed him to get a price Quote on his 6538 caseset heres a link for anyone that wants to weigh in http://www.chrono24....7&watchTypeId=Z ok so heres an update to where im at as far as what im looking at for case and parts. Case: The most important decision imo, so I heard back from Phong and he quoted me as follows: 1.body case and case back with crown tube for $1250.00 2.complete case $1450.00 Phong Case Pic ( I asked for more via email lets see if he sends some) at $1250 for case and back leaves me a little wiggle room for an authentic Crown and T17 crystal but heres the problem I CANT FIND ONE (crystal that is ) ! so if any one can point me in the direction of where to get one I would really appretiate it only place ive looked are : ebay chrono24, TRF, VRF no luck and imsure when I find it its gonna be hella expensive also while Iv dismatle gen rolxes before ( removed instaled dials hands bez mov ect I never done a crystal so theres the learing curve on that as well). So not sure if I should go that route or just pay Phong 1450 and keep the crystal and crown that his case brings. Ive emailed NDT twice about a quuote for his case set been over a week since 1st email still no response Dial: While I have to agree with ya that NDTs dials are the best I had seen tho woof turned me to ingods dials and i must say in the pics they look to be exactly like NDTS but for less than half the price so now I dont know I dont mind spending the $350 on NDTS but ingods are $135 and look the same as far as quality font and markings and at least from pics more vintage looking but that could just be lighting im gonna post pics of both bellow. NDT Dial $350 ingod $135 As far as hands and BI go your right on point torresp best BI is from CWP and Best Hands appear to be CWP aswell only thing torresp is how did you get the white second hand did you requets it ? on their site (the pic of their hands bellow) all 3 come in the gilt i would like the second hand white, also if I get the phong or minh case you think its worth replacing the Bez with a CWP one or just the BI and leave the Bez that comes with case? Lastly as a completly diffrent way to take this project in the For Sale section of the forum is 6538 for 2K with a Yuki case that appears to be one of the better non wokky Yukis with original 1030 mov. and gen rolex crytal tho it appears to me to be bigger than a T17 maybee its a T19 or bigger you guys can weigh in on that ( i contacted seller still no response) At that price I can replace the Bezel and Insert Dial and Hands and maybee a gen crown and still fall bellow budget So if ya guys can weigh in on that case crstal and mov that would be awesome heres the link and pic of watch: http://www.rwg.cc/to.../page__hl__6538 Appears to bea great and known seller just wasnt planing on going yuki with my case also dome gives a some what distorted view from thos pics dont know if its the angles or the crystal is that normal on an authentic crytal ? so here are the pics 6538 Yuki case wath for sale by 5th_groups Pics are off of 5th_groups thread hope its OK 5th just need some feed back to see if your watch fits my needs, watch is very nice. Thanks again to all that have given me their opinion and continue to guide me in the right direction as we all know this an expensive project if not planed out correctly well even if planed out correctly lol =)

yup u right all 3 look wokky in comparison to th epic hes got for just the case:

aa thxs been wondering what that meant, ya i asked for more straight shots of watch/dial most of those pics are angled and im not feeling the dial aswell for that kind of cash i expect close to perfection so ill post some beter shoots when he sends them still think NDT makes the superior dial

actually that might be a 5510 up there in that photo woof duno 4 on the BI is boxy as oposed to pointed aswell

mmm 30K for a watch whose dial doesnyt match its year Oo Tswiss<25 started in 1960 somethings off on that watch not to mention the condition of a suposedly 54 year old watch that thing would be worth way more than 30k iof it was real imo. Whats wokky mean btw im not familar with that term? Heres a beter example of a real 6538:

WOW! That watch is pure sexuality have you made love to it yet ? Im definatly considering purchasing one of his 6538s specialy now that I read how far he went to right the minor defects. CC put some pics of his 6538s at http://www.rwg.cc/topic/148404-first-build-a-6538-could-use-some-opinions-sugestions/ if you guys could way in on the 3 with any opinions on changes to ask for before I order that would be awesome I feeling the 2 line glit dial but with th ecase on the 1st watch in the pics with th evintage finish on the bezel as well as the hands. GREAT 6265 CC good purchase at 6K imo for a rare watch that not to many people own with a gen Rolex movement sure for 6k you can get a used gen suby or something similar that everyone and their mother owns If they fit I would recomend a http://www.thomaspreik.de/ that movement is meant to be displayed imo its absolutly breathtaking ! may you enjoy it for many many years.

yup the vintage finish is pretty sweet, the BI ia easy to do I have an aftermarket BI for my 16803 and gave it a test run bathed it a couple of sec in a bath of Windex (any amonia based cleaning sol will do) and got a nice faded look on the blue insert just that I didnt know not to pull out directly cause the air causes some shiny spots gotta flush the bath with water after a couple of secs thenI baked the BI 550F for like 30 min and the pearl turned a nice yellow color all this I got from threads on rwg so thxs to the forum for the info =). Any Idea why the original bez or the one I see most often is the one with the red triangle and second markers and the one Bond has in Golfinger is the one without second markers and only numbers ? is the later incorrect for an authentic 2 lined glit 6538? I like em both im just wondering wich if not both are correct for the series ? http://www.theprodigalguide.com/2009/11/04/bond-and-rolex-the-story-of-a-tumultuous-but-long-lasting

Thanks for the info hadnt looked at the clearance section on Phongs must admit they look pretty dam good definatly given me something to think about I thnk If he were to throw in a 7206 band id be sold =)

Hello and thank you for the advice yup I agree I’m still in the process of doing my homework while I don’t mind spending $3500-4500 on this project I want to come out right and don’t want to throw my money away on some thing that wont fit together well or might fall apart. Also I ll take a look at th esale section maybee theres something good similar to what I want to creat for a decent price even tho I was heart set on putting it together my self but on the other hand I love a good bargain =) Here’s where I’m at so far: Yukis Case www.yukiwatch.com/catalog/item/6924997/7278344.htm: Great communication thus far on his part $800 for case engraved at that price could probably afford to put in an authentic Crystal and Crown. Gen Tropic 17 crystal if I can find one that is and if they run more or less like the abundant Tropic 19 would run $100-$400 if used or new and a Gen Crown from what I’ve seen is $600+ but then we get into what Panerai mentioned about moding rep case with expensive gen parts could be a trial and error disaster. Claims no water resistance on this case. Dev you claim its Wokky but I’m not sure I know what that means can you elaborate plz. So basically here I guess I’m in the $1800 range moded with gen parts. Phong (JAW) Case (http://www.jewelryandwatch.com/contents/en-us/d192_6538_Submariner_case.html ) :$1650 at this price I would expect a case that I would not have to mod and be very similar to an authentic case crystal and crown If some one has any experience with one of theses an can give their opinion as to its worth for that price I would appretiate it and also they clams to be Water Resistant. On another down note they have 1 pic of the case for a $1650 prod not very reassuring. ND Trading Case (http://ndtradingcorp.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=259 ) : No price quote yet after 2 emails asking for one not very reassuring pics looks good crown and crystal look superior to yukis yet again not much info found as far to actual people using this case and how much it runs and if its worth the money again if its in the $1500+ I would expect a case that I would not have to be moded much. If any one has experience with the JAW and NDT case and wants to weigh in I would really appreciate your thoughts and opinions. Here’s where I’m at with the rest of the parts as far as price and the ones that appear at least from the pics to look best. Dial NDTs $350 most expensive but best looking one imo: http://ndtradingcorp.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=376 Hands CWP aged look reasonable price they look pretty good in the pic $65: http://www.classicwatchparts.com/catpart/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45&products_id=42&osCsid=dr6t3rdf82trcntr3uukrrppu2 Braclet I think NDTs looks to be superior to the rest IMO from the pics NDT $220 JAW $300 Yuki $149: http://ndtradingcorp.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=340 Bezel Insert CWPs looks to be the most authentic looking IMO $120 : http://www.classicwatchparts.com/catpart/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=34_56&products_id=74&osCsid=dr6t3rdf82trcntr3uukrrppu2 Can some one explain why some authentic 6538 come with BI with the second marks and red triangle and the some like the one In the bond pics come like the one I posted with just numbers ? Well still not pulling the trigger on anything got to decide which direction to go with the case so any more info on the Phong and NDT cases or any other parts I mentioned would be great thanks for your time. Also If anyone has sites for authentic parts besides chrono shop and VRF that would be awesome thxs.

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Thxs Dev, beautiful piece btw thxs for the input i dont mind springing for the 1030 movement tring to achieve perfection or as close as possible. I have to agree its all about the dial Ill take a look at the dials at NDT yukis look a little to new duno if maybee i can achieve a more vintage look by baking them ill reaserch that on the forum later tho. wanted to know where u sourced you bezel insert all the ones ive seen have the numbers to close to the inner rim yours looks on point =) I just baked an after market bezel insert that I have for my suby and I must say the superlum pearl came out lookin 50 years old nice and dark yellow =) and it didnt fall apart as i read in some cases it does if ya cookit to long=). Dint really think abot changing the crystal on the case is that something I should look into maybee an original ? so many questions haha thanks for the help.

Hello, Im a new member and have decided to finally attempt my first build which is going to be James Bond Big Crown Submariner 6538 I have begun to do my research and am tring to decide on what case to buy. I have read numerous threads here on RWG about the cases but there seems to be a difrence of opinions and well most of the threads are a year or older so I figuered Id start one up see if any one that had done a similar project recently and could way in. Let me state that my goal is to make my 6538 look as authentic as possible and am not affraid to spendthe cash with in reason if the parts are worth it of course, that being said my question is which case is the most authentic looking and has the best craftmanship for the money. The ones I have seen are the JAW ($1600) Yuki (about 500 from what I have read also read that some member had the dome fall out) and the NDtrading which I have not been able to get a price if someone knows more or less what they run and can tell me that would be great. Im not intrested so much in the bezel insert as they are all off and will prob hut for a beter aftermarket or maybee an original. If anyone wants to weigh in on any of the other parts to the project as far as which trhey have seen look more authentic that would be great or of any sights with good orig pieces at fair prices (only one ive seen is chrono-shop.net). Im thinking for the movement i might just buy a similar cheaper model rolex and pull the move and if im lucky maybee even the braclet even tho i havent seen any with the marked (7206/80) wich i believe is the one the orig 6538 came with. seen a couple watches on ebay for about $1800 if there are beter sugestion for an authentic 1030 cal please let me know, I figuer I can scrap the rest of the watch for parts to sell on ebay to recoup some of my cost. Opinoins sugestions and critisim all welcomed and apretiated. Thank you in advance for your time and input.