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Bands: Is it common knowledge that it is near impossible to rep gold and I'm just late/not informed? Is it that my watches are dirty/not shined with a certain special spray? I feel like it is very obvious from 5 feet away that my reps are fake because they do not shine/glisten like genuine watches do. Is this true or is this in my head?

there are two types of two tone blue submariners one newer, ceramic one older with a deeper purple i want the older type please help me find it on that site and reassure it is good

They won't have cheaper materials than watches that cost more? I can't find an item that looks like a 16613. http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=18125357 http://www.cqout.com/item.asp?id=13886113 Are those 116613s? Where is the M2M board? Does that stand for "member to member" which is a forum that can be found here?

What makes you say that?

Like a moron, I scrapped the entire thing. Don't ask. Where would you recommend I get a good Submariner 16613 two-tone blue-face non-ceramic replica now? Who should I contact? What old sites are gone/what new sites are good deals? What am I looking to pay, etc.?

How long should the cheap version last? What would be the first thing to go on it?

Are you saying that a large portion of the watch price isn't really the bracelet/the body, but the movement? What do you think I was doing wrong?

I read right on the TrustyTime website that crowns/stems aren't covered in the warranty (go figure, the parts that actually break...) One watch had the threading where the crown and body meet come off. That was $100 wasted. The other had the crown come off of the stem somewhere during that 3 stage date set/hour set/minute set stage. I wouldn't wind the watch if I didn't have to. By not wearing it for a few days, it would lose the correct time/date. Should I just buy a winding case to alleviate that problem?

Where do you all recommend I buy the Submariner I desire from?

There is a chance the problem was user error, as I would wear the watch for one day, then leave it sitting for 5+ and be forced to wind it as it had run out of momentum. I may not be as smart as I think; maybe I didn't properly pull/wind the stem. I stripped something enough for the crown to not want to stick onto the stem anymore. This is actually the second time I've done that. Before was with a really cheap watch off of some random website that isn't even mentioned here (SwissWatches or something) I see a Submariner at WatchDen.com for less than Andrew's TrustyTime. I don't see how this could be a good thing.

I'll admit that once the watch did break, I definitely did take the wrong route of repair by opening the entire watch then disassembling the movement piece for fun. I probably could have gotten in contact with them then ordered a unstripped crown/stem (I believe that is what it was) I am hesitant to order another but I definitely do want a relipca two-tone Submariner (last generation, blue face) What do you recommend I do? I purchased the $178 Asian movement-containing watch last time and am apprehensive to purchase the same watch that only lasted me approximately 3 weeks of extremely light usage before having a broken crown/winding mechanism. I see that more expensive style movements are offered, but I do not think higher quality crowns/stems are used. Can somebody confirm this? I would hate to spend close to $400 for a watch with the same faulty piece and only a smoother tick. I did contact TrustyTime about it and their response was "you get what you pay for" Is there another brand I should try? This is the only replica watch I want. I get that the hobby can be addicting. Can all of those more professional and experienced than I am please chime in? Thank you so much!

I think I am going crazy staring at all of these replicas/genuine watches nitpicking minor differences. Could somebody with a larger breadth of knowledge of the matter chime in please? Do older versions of two-tone Submariners have different color bezels/faces? Are all replicas regarded as equal on this subject? I'll gladly pay $200 for an Asian movement two-tone Submarine blue replica.