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Some say his mind is powered by an Asian clone 2846-2 movement, all we know is he's called the STIG Sent from my RM-821_apac_singapore_293 using Tapatalk

Thanks for the response. HANDS From the searches so far, i keep hearing that Rafflestime may be able to supply the appropriate hands. However, i do not see it on their website nor do i see a contact email there for Ken(?). Does anyone have Rafflestime's email? DIAL Do i change this? In the write-up regarding the Cartel 1675 build, JJ states that following:- The case is engraved 1675 which is a plus. Although the only movement option is a more exepensive ETA, the transformation is so far cheaper as with the Explorer : no need of a bezel assembly, the stock dial is pretty good, interesting for aging and relume. Now i'm wondering if he considers it as good enough to be convincing, or is there a big difference between this and a gen dial or one from Yuki or Rafflestime? Now i know most of you will think: why don't this noobass ask JJ himself? The problem is (and this is not knocking the great guy) he can be a little slow in responding. So i was hoping that those of you with the experience of a 1675 build (using the DG3804B movement) will be able to advise and guide me on this aspect of the build...

Thanks, i was curious about the manner in which the 2836 movement functioned and why it is so hard to distinguish between the time and GMT movement adjustments... I intend to get the DG3804B and get JJ to swop out the 2836 movement so i'm not too concerned about the manner in which the GMT hand adjusts manually. However, i am still in the dark as to whether the cartel dial and hands will work with it and whether i should make it more gen-like by getting new hands/dial.

Thanks for responding! Yes, am glad i got the worry about the smooth bezel on the 1675 answered. The 5512 is the same; smooth turning bezel in both directions. As for the GMT hand, yes, it does seem to be adjustable on my watch, The hard part is trying to pull the crown out at the right point as it seems so darn close to the time adjustments... Btw, it is advertised as an independently adjustable GMT hand... http://www.ttw888.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=8348

Anyone? Don't wanna hand JJ an unmoddable watch... Sent from my RM-821_apac_singapore_293 using Tapatalk

So i got my cartel 1675 and 5512 in hand (had to get TD to change it at QC stage cos it came with close 6 & 9s for the 1675). in i do however have 2 rudimentary questions which i hope can find help in though:- (1) Are the bezels supposed to rotate with no clicks and little resistance? I seem to have it that way and it seems odd having been used to modern clicking bezels... (2) Is the GMT/Time/Date adjustments usually very difficult on the watch, it seems pretty hard to find the exact point when you pull put the crown. I keep having difficulty finding either the date or the GMT hand adjustment... Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated...

So... anyone? I have ordered and am at the QC stage of the 1675 & 5512 purchase. So, for the 1675 - i think i have a pretty good chance of sourcing a DG3804 movement locally. What else will i need to pass to Rolexaddict besides the movement and the watch? Like i said, it's beginning to get a little confusing, what with the varying opinions on which is a "proper" DG 3804 movement, etc. Also - Do i need hands? Do i need a new dial? Crown/tube? I am afraid that whilst there is mention of sourcing these parts to fit a DG3804 movement on some other threads, i also realise that some of these threads do stretch a bit back and i wonder if it is applicable to the current Cartel 1675... So i'd really appreciate any guidance on this aspect. As for the 5512 - will be trying to get a 2846 movement too and i presume this will be a straightforward movement swap? Once again, thanks in advance for the wise and learned advice that follows! (and sorry if i didn't seem to reaserch properly; in all earnesty i have looked and perhaps i am abit new in the subject but whilst there are leads to my questions, i have difficulty finding definitive answers).

Let me just ask if this is correct... If i buy a cartel 1675 and i want it low beat, i will have to:- (1) Get a DG3804(B?) movement; (2) Source a different set of hands (probably from Rafflestime); (3) However, i can retain the cartel DWO, stem and crown, and also the cartel dial (if i want?). I'm probably wrong on point (3) but do let me know cos the info i get is somewhat confusing me from all the 1675 threads i've read so far...

Yup

My bad. Will search! Sent from my RM-821_apac_singapore_293 using Tapatalk

So that means there is no necessity to get new hands, dial, dw, etc?

Definitely a gen Tudor black bay is a target for 2014. I have pre-ordered these 2 watches and hope they come in February... http://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/Nav-B-Uhr-44-handwinding-bronze,811.html http://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/OCEAN-One-Vintage,817.html Sent from my RM-821_apac_singapore_293 using Tapatalk

You mean the DG3804B won't fit into a cartel 1675? How much in terms of hands, dials, dw needs to be changed from the cartel one? I've just got a reply from JJ and he also recommended the dg3804. However, I have had no success finding a seller... Sent from my RM-821_apac_singapore_293 using Tapatalk

Thank you! Wow! What an education! Having read all that, i understand now that going gen movement will be going waaaay over my head in terms of effort, luck and finances than i care to invest. Looks like my best bet is still the 2846 movement (but it is hard to find now...). But once again, the wealth of knowledge that you have does not cease to amaze!

Oh... and purely for discussion purposes only (cos i probably can't justify it in reality) what does it take to drop a 1570 or 1560 movement into a Cartel watch? How much needs to be changed? Dial? DW? Hands? Crown/tube? The Lot?