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Just put your toe in the water, get the "ultimate 104", "it's not that cold , the water's just fine!" and start learning to swim upstream......... You'll find you will never be satisfied with just one rep and will curse us even more for actually giving you advice to get one.

Definitely faster than the vinegar bath. Nice to see a confirmation of the post about my jeweler's solution for removing the stem out of a crown with alum.

My occupation........I do well.

Well being inappropriate after a bottle of wine on top of my regular, most androgynous I say "Miss Understood Big Bhoy" That's all folks, remember civility rules for this thread which is now way off topic, I'm saying goodnight..................."hic"

I resemble that remark!

Sorry offshore my friend, although Rya was a wolf in sheep's clothing, it wasn't in drag. My son and I having personally had dinner with him and drinks on another occasion in So.Cal., I assure you, Dems avatar is not Rya, he wouldn't be that cute of a reverse "Yentl"! I remember him mentioning about her (his muse/girlfriend in the picture) but can't recall all the finer details, although she was a big "sigh" he seemed not to want to mention. Knowing Rya, it would be very like him to instigate and promote the most far out rumors to further his 'cause to shock the forum membership and laugh about it, and if you bought into him being in drag for his avatar, you just got coerced into licking the pump handle. (You have to know cold winters for that joke) Only time I saw him seriously sincere (and not pulling the wool over the members) was when he posted his suicide note that I had to have a couple of person-to-person phone calls to see him through it.

Geez, you really do that Dems? Why I'm shocked, I always try to keep a hear clead when loggin' in. ... Of Course I usually fail.

Hirsch Riva Strap today.

But that original innocent question by a noob (the whole original question was also "should I remove it or does that take away from authenticity") sparked the legendary TRL thread that immediately led to the inside joke abbreviation/acronym perplexing noobies everafter as to what "TRL" stood for. We all took glee in perpetuating the torturing of noobs with it. It took pages before the noob ever got his answer in the thread and by then he was so confused I don't think he ever came back. "And now you know the rest of the story".........Paul Harvey P.S. You can still buy TRL's on eBay HERE but make sure they are authentic!

The way my eyes are today I'd never be able to appreciate the busy dial without a macro lens but that looks just beautiful. Awesome watch Dave, enjoy it. I think the white dial goes elegant sport/dress perfectly.

Personal experience: These are perilous times in the world and people who have faith are drawing close to God for guidance & comfort, lucky them. Spreading the faith is part of believing and this is probably all its about. He has belief in something higher than man that helps him make it through the day. I doubt a request for a donation is on the radar. If in the event there is a request, there's no problem to politely ignore it. But if you feel the spirit moves over your agnostic soul, then go for it!

Okay, I'll play. "I have this $50,000 Patek.............."surely someone can top that!" and "What are those Thin Red Lines on the back of the watch" You guess the source and outcome. (Hint: Its all part of our collective DNA now)

Yeah Bob, in a linking way (in the spirit of 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon) I know all about Homer from friends, too many tourist fishermen according to one old Cali buddy of mine who escaped and lived there for 25 years. He had enough finally and moved to Ecuador. Now he lives in the land of too many ex-pat gringo retirees.

Not so tough at all Johntheboy. REBUTTAL: My childhood was in the 50's where some of Mama Norris' advice and recollections still applied, I understand things were significantly simpler, but we will never get back to those simpler times as the information age has us more connected in so many more complicated ways. If a cosmic calamity like a meteor strike has us all living in caves, yeah then we will get back to those simpler times. I like the recent movie "He's Just Not That Into You" as a primer of how in today's society it has so many ways that (text-cell-computer-etc.) you have to communicate one-on-one and how everything requires your attention in order not to get "lost in translation." As a new WWII refugee immigrant family, the living was by far skimpy at best with wants vs. needs, food vs. "things". Since then of course, attitudes changed, society changed, situations changed, economic engines changed, adaptation for us was really the best means of survival since we were forced into it just by having to be uprooted and switching countries. We can all reminisce about how society has gotten away from the "good 'ol day" core values that seemed better, simpler and easier dealing with adversity, but its a new era that requires new skills, new methods, a new society, and new attitudes to deal with it all. Race or religion wasn't an issue back in Mama Norris' time, everyone was separate, being in church it was easier to help your fellow kind, since your neighborhood was people like you, your church like you, your friends like you, all thinking like you, "not foreign." With movement of people from their enclave neighborhoods to follow jobs that were once congealed in their home territory, it changed the face of society forever and there is no going back. Now we're homogenized worldwide, interracial mixing a norm, and its a global society and economy where we effect other parts of the globe. We are evolving socially for better or for worse and no matter how much "whine goes with the cheese", everyone must adapt to the new scenario to survive, just like my family did coming to America in the late '40s. A society that stops listening to the wisdom of their elders is only doomed to repeat history, I listen and appreciate my elders, even at my 60+ aging, but I also filter out the complaining about the loss of a more refined elegant social order of the past. I've got no issue with the way things are today, they are what they are, get used to it. If I get upset about the neighbor's kids being so noisy, I don't forget today that I was once that noisy neighbor kid of yesterday. The ones that can adapt with the wisdom taken from the past will survive, all the others will just whine about how things used to be. Getting back to the basics is a moot point, we just have more basics to deal with today. Remember when only the man worked and the woman stayed home, that's a thing of the past and part of the change in society, not the destruction of it. We all do what we gotta do to survive in a new world. I also like pie, especially homemade apple divided evenly by physics, but after 2 bloody Marys since 3 in the afternoon its time to move on to more serious vodka martinis. I don't have a drinking problem, "I drink, I fall down, no problem!" ........... and a Obamaism "God Bless Us All."

Think this oldtimer will add to the 17 pages. TTK (Neil) was well tolerated when the forums were small and dealers were scare, but with the advent of the forum(s) population explosion and more choices (dealers) to pick from, that tends to also multiply and magnify any problems. Questionable behavior and business practices that were once tolerated were no longer, to keep a machine running smoothly you will tend to replace the worn out parts that are making the thing run rough. Different forum(s) era now requires different behavior.

Do as most young people do today and look like you don't give a damn, use your cellphone to tell time and don't wear a watch. Irregardless, no one will notice the watch you wear to size you up, only you will, but a rep on your wrist will just mentally give you one more thing to worry about because its not a gen and believe me, you'll not want to add to any insecurity. Sounds like you are nervous enough about it already. For some reason my occupation made me no stranger as a participant to the inside of a courtroom over the years and what I noticed was not the appearance of the litigating attorneys, but the appearance of the people being deposed that was more influencing. The demeanor of the attorney made the most impact, a sharp coolheaded attorney to be reckoned with. Having flopsweat going in doesn't cut it.

Great story. Sounds like a "Murphy's Law" outcome, "whatever can go wrong, will go wrong!"

I just posted this 10 days ago (see post). I have both Superluminova and tritium tube watches. Superluminova will outshine Tritium gas tubes for about a half hour, then its tritium tubes all the way after that. Ball Watches is a resurrected American brand with Swiss guts and one of the few mechanical watch makers using Tritium gas tubes on the dial. Most of the others using Tritium gas tubes are cheaper quartz driven ala "special opts" type watches. http://www.rwg.cc/members/Gaseous-Tritium-...st&p=610227

When buying a gen., it doesn't matter what income level you exude to the public, its a matter of passion, taste and knowledge. A sales clerk can have an expensive watch if that is their passion and can back it up with the WIS knowledge. It doesn't work that way for reps since you are at the threat of just being a poser although you have the same WIS passion, taste and knowledge. But as you've pointed out for the reps., its a matter of what income level you are perceived in public. If you peruse the many threads here, you'll see that even professionals with big starting out incomes will just buy a lower level rep. to not seem conspicuous and uncomfortable around their other older same profession peers that have "made it" and sport the luxury high-end watches they can actually afford in their income strata. Its all a matter of your comfort level. With peers, it is a fine line on how you want to be perceived, when does your thriftyness rep. buying smartness boarder on a poser in your peers eyes. Age has a lot to do with it. The younger you are where its more important for the perception of success to get ahead, you are more in danger of looking like a poser, the older you are, no one questions the watch you are wearing, especially if its gold.

Nope Robbie, always a string man, guitar & bass, I meant work on a "computer keyboard." Started out in college mid-60's, graduated college and went out on the road. Early 70's, if you were a musician with waist length hair, cowboy boots & a guitar, you could write your own ticket. Since I was a lounge singer, my years on the road before landing on this island were spent at 6 week long gigs so only had to move around say 10 to 12 times a year, lodging & meals were included since they were all in nice hotels, some motels, ski resorts, etc. Got to spend time getting to know the place & people where I was gigging, pretty relaxing (although not as exciting as 200 gigs a year). Took all the money I made and just traveled to places I wanted to see. But thrift came with my 2nd marriage, 1st son, then 3rd marriage, 2nd son, house payments, etc. I don't know if you plan on having children but it seems all those personal desires go out the window when they come along. Quit singing at 45 because I wanted to be home at night with the wife & kids. Now that I can afford pretty much all my desires again, kids out of the house, .........but life now is quality over quantity, old habit of looking for bargains seem fun to me, its like the art of the deal. Back on topic, so my latest beater I got off of eBay for $360 because it was a pre-release dealer model with a black datewheel and it was from a grey-marketer.

Lani, correcto, and even more so on the neighbor islands, short supply of anesthesiologists, good pay....high demand. Reminds me, do you remember when Hawaii State Disability insurance compensation used to include all chiropractic visits up until about 10 years ago, then they excluded them? We used to have the most per capita chiros per person than any other state in the union. When the State pulled the plug there was a mass exodus of chiropractors off the islands! Because of State govt. insurance payments, they were making huge money, it was big business, more than any other health care providers (a crime to say nonetheless) and many a chiro clinic disappeared overnight when the insurance spigot was turned off. Has nothing to do with anesthesiologists but now chiros numbers are down and not as popular as alternative therapy. I see I'm not the only one that uses a gen. quartz for their tool/beater watch here (for those that do some work/fun other than a keyboard).........sorry RobbieG, I do almost all my work on a keyboard (also an ex-musician although probably not as successful as you (studio musician) but made a damn fine 25 yr good living being a high-end lounge lizard crooner), but I like to fix household items as a hobby/necessity rather than throwing me $$ at it or some yardwork that I don't expect my gardener to do, and it requires some physical beatup to my watch labor I'm not willing to put my other mechanical gens through. You know I'm only kidden ya! I'm just a cheap/thrifty bastard at heart and always will be, no matter what the finances. I recently mentioned my new replacement beater HERE as they've been Luminox quartz for the last four years, before that it was all digital, before that before most of you were born it was all Seiko quartz. Utilitarian accuracy/lume for the price of a good rep. nowadays. As you can see, I'm up to my normal self and beating it up tonight with a twist!

@billwhiz: James Dearth (aka Jetmid) was supposedly in sales & leasing of jet planes at JetMidWest based in Kansas City, MO. Please read my 2 old posts here: Jetmid - RWG Replica Versus Fakes - RWG Cheers, Omni

@Wiseman: There are no issues. My daily tool/yardwork/beater watch for the last 4 years was a 48mm Luminox Pro-Diver, now a discontinued model. My Son came home for Christmas, liked it so much I gave it to him. Replaced with the new Luminox 47mm Field Chrono-Alarm model 1888 as a Christmas present to myself. I had originally researched extensively the tritium tubes, there is no radiation past the phosphor coating inside the borosilicate glass of the tubes, none whatsoever, there is no radiation health hazards. The glow is from the radiation hitting the phosphor coating. Here's a pretty good informational link explanation by United Nuclear who sells them but are currently sold out. They don't sell the small kind for watch dials though, don't know where or if you could source those. United Nuclear Fully charged Superluminova is much brighter for the 1st half hour but then will fade to about where a tritium gas tube is in brightness, that will give you an idea of what to expect. The advantage of tritium over Superluminova paint is it never fades from that brightness. Superluminova will be completely gone or very faint after 4 hours. If you go into a store to see the brightness of tritium tubes you'll be disappointed in a bright showroom, until your eyes adjust to viewing in a room of total darkness, about 5 minutes is when you'll appreciate what they are. But even in moonlit evenings or driving in your car at night you will notice it, even though there is peripheral light. The brightness will never fade and although I like to look at it in bed at night, my wife finds that annoying because it seems so bright, I must do as the boss says and put it on the nightstand.

Ken, you deserve all the credit for the origination of the idea and carry-through, as all things commissioned in the name of RWG, it seems whatever can go wrong will go wrong. I did not want to see this go the path of the Collaboration 1 Watch so I was happy to help a lending hand and opportunity to give a gift to all the great moderators of the forum. Thanks again Ken for your time and effort in bringing the project to fruition.