italiano17771

graphite only comes with graphite sub dials. if you want the black subdials then you need to get the slate grey dial. that one is very close to the gen, but the rep makers missed that the outer part of the dial is also black.....the rep does not have this.

you can see the outer part of the dial is black in the pic of the gen below.

no question....the skyland

that looks awesome lani!! thanks for getting this info out to us so quickly. i love the date font too.....now only if they can perfect the breitling date font. thanks again...i think i need to grab one of these.

great collection. thanks for sharing.

one question, you said the ap roo you have has the best AR you ever saw? if so, im not too sure they came with AR....maybe they did.....wasnt aware of this.

that looks amazing. the rep guys should use this to make the breitling blacksteel. looks much better than pvd....thanks for sharing.

I will have to disagree with you here italiano.It is not the ultimate,it is the first version and the only impuvment is the AR.If you look carefully you will notice that the case of the watch is not the same as the ultimates and the pussers of the chrono are way too long.

Sorry for my bad English

all i know is that the 2 "major" improvements from the first generation bce to the "ultimate" was the correct silver hands and double ar. look at it however you want to look at it, but the pics on this thread are showing correct silver hands & double AR.

ive had both and noticed no difference in the case.

....and the bracelet from the ultimate was improved...the pics above show the updated bracelet.

i like the watch. very disappointed that it only has single sided ar!!! the gen has double ar. what does 1:1 mean?? if they use the gen to make the rep why would they do just about everything right....including the datewheels, which i think look pretty damn good, but forget one of the most important details (imo).

heres the specs for the gen.

http://www.gemnation.com/base?processor=vi...p;watch_id=3582

this is the ultimate bce. they are just using the old dials. the ultimate has the correct silver hands and has double ar....just like the one in the pic above.

your pearl looks great! still waiting for my bracelet. looks good....you got lucky with that pearl. congrats.

whats funny is how he says that he can guarantee authenticity. whenever i here that it always seems that the seller knows its a fake. he probably went to the Ad to make sure it was real....they said it was fake....now he is selling it.

iwc experts any help with this one? looks exactly like my rep.

http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=msg...098#msg_3350775

save yourself $1000 and grab a skyland!!!

this is the "ice bang"

id be interested if it was anything close to the gen, but it falls extremely short. nothing like the gen..

looks amazing. does the crystal have double AR? great job.

josh at perfect clones is a trusted dealer here. you should not have any problems with dealing with him. since you are new, i would suggest to use the search button and im sure you can find a ton of info here.

$358 shipped?? damn that seems kinda high. used gens sell for around $1200.

that looks very nice!! did he also re-lume the pearl as well? looks great..congrats.

that looks amazing my friend. you got me drooling over here....still waiting for mine...hopefully ill get it soon. definitely looks better on the bracelet imo. congrats brother!!

Hi

This is a great watch , I like it too, and also was interested in buying the gen (received an offer of ~$3500, but hesitated).

these sell used for under $2000. so the offer for $3500 was way too much. good thing you didnt buy it for that much. i dont even think the list price is that high.

on a side note...if youre looking to buy a gen my suggestion would be to find a dealer out of state. that way you dont have to pay 6% sales tax. i have a dealer in michigan who will give around 30%. if anybody is interested PM me.

that pic is of a genuine CSO. scam site my friend. stay away. the CSO has not been repped yet.

the links are a little different. the black bird has more of an angle at the

edge compared to the bce. very close to the bce though. you can see from the pics...

first pic is from the bird.

live with it until you send them to The Zigmeister. in my opinion...its a no brainer. do you use the chrono often enough for this to bother you?

me and my good buddy, leo, are wearing the same thing today

thanks for all the comments. have to say...this is probably the most comfortable watch i own

thanks to the titanium.

happy holidays to everybody. :laugh: