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  1. The Daytona 6263 Hunt (DW/SPinmaster/Kenny/Watchguyusa1) Anyone else?

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    Since DW A7750's went for $350ish before he disappeared, I'd say one that's been gone through by a watchmaker with some nice mods is worth at least that, and maybe $500 to the right buyer?
    But...it really comes down to what the market wants to pay.

    His final ones with 7750 and correct flat S bezel Paul Newman went for $800. Prices are all over the place but recently went up pretty high. All he used ones I've seen was over $750


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  2. Vintage rolex

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    I don't know about his movements, but I use all his cases and they're great! Fits gen movement perfectly. I have my watches built and movements serviced elsewhere.

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    Want to Buy: GEN Rolex Movements and/or Franken Sub / GMT / v72 or DW Daytonas!

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  8. Is this a GEN Rolex Cal. 1030

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    This is also 1 of the reasons it is recommended that mechanical movements be overhauled every 5-7 years. Keeping those wear parts clean & well-oiled will extend their usable lifespan.


    I definitely will be doing this! Do you have a recommendation on US servicing on a movement like this?


    Want to Buy: Vintage DW Daytona and Franken / Phong Daytona 6263, 62xx, etc!

  9. Is this a GEN Rolex Cal. 1030

    in The Rolex Area

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    A fair price is what a buyer is willing to pay. Currently, for a clean/working 1030, I would consider $1,800-$2,000 a reasonable range.

    This is very informative. Thank you Freddy! Now if only I can find a v72 lol


    Want to Buy: Vintage DW Daytona and Franken / Phong Daytona 6263, 62xx, etc!

  13. Modding the cartel vintage Daytona's for proper sub-dial spacing.

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    On 8/7/2011 at 7:36 PM, chiman12 said:

    I took some time off on a couple of projects (sorry Flex!) and focused on the cartel 6263 that has been recently released with the the asymmetrical pusher configuration, but has crappy sub-dials.

     

    I bought the white PN dial. Besides the big crappy sub-dials, the rest of the dial isn't actually too bad. But the killer is the sub-dials. They are a larger than gen and the hour sub-dial even bleeds into the outside track of the dial. Definitely 2 thumbs down!

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    When you turn over the watch, you will notice that one of the pusher notches doesn't seem to be cut as deep as the other...

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    There is a reason for this, which I will explain later.

     

    Opening the case...a shot of inside the case back. Once again not too bad, engravings are deep, fonts are pronouced...

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    Shot of the famous Seagull movement that was used in this rep.

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    But waitaminute...the Seagull has symmetrical pusher configuration, so how can the new cartel vintage Daytona's have asymmetrical pushers?

     

    Here is the cartel's answer to the symmetrical/asymmetrical problem...

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    For the top pusher, the cartel fashioned a little "L" shaped arm that attaches to the pusher. This "L" shaped arm actually compensates for the difference in distance between a symmetrical and asymmetrical pusher position. The offset is a good 6 to 8mm. This also explains why one of the pusher notches is not as deep as the other one. The cartel had to machine a groove in the case to fit the "L" shaped arm and as a result, the corresponding pusher need to be shortened. Though not noticable at first or even second glance, the top pusher is a bit shorter than the bottom pusher.

     

    I give the cartel this credit...very ingenious, but when the watch is flipped over, the notch is a sure tell. Otherwise, when the watch sits on your wrist, the notch is not noticable at all.

     

    In my exploration, I also discovered that the seagull can never have the proper sub dial spacing for a Daytona. I bought an InGod44 PN dial just for the purpose of modding the cartel to give it the same sub-dial spacing as a gen Daytona. I discovered this...

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    InGod dial on top and the cartel dial on the bottom. Notice how the cartel hour sub-dial post hole is slightly lower than the InGod? Yup...a gen-spec dial is not a direct swap.

     

    BUT...I wasn't going to give up, so I proceeded to tear apart the Daytona and I discovered the following.

     

    As you may well know, the hour totalizer (sub-dial) is static for the Seagull movement...in other words, it is not functional. Here is the little gear responsible for holding the hour totalizer hand in place.

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    The hour gear needs to be moved slightly upwards, but the gear is set into place by a pivot and a pivot hole machined into the top plate of the movement.

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    I had to either move the position of the pivot hole or remove the pivot. I decided that to remove the pivot would be the easiest way. So I proceeded to file down the pivot, until it was gone and the gear sat flat on the surface of the movement plate.

     

    I then took the cover plate...Notice that the plate keeps the hour gear in a specific spot.

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    So I enlarged the hour gear hole by using one of my trusty broaches. But the gear had to stay in its new position, so I used some cold weld adhesive to affix the gear into the proper place on the movement plate. I used slow set cold weld adhesive as this would provide some extra time to move the hour gear into the proper position. I quickly reinstalled the cover plate and placed the InGod dial onto the movement. I then aligned the post to the new dial.

     

    Here is the end result...

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    After the adhesive has dried, I used dial dot tape to install the InGod dial. Notice that the hour post is in the middle...

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    The hands go back on...

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    ...and the final product...the subdial issue for the vintage cartel Daytona...solved!!!

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    Okay...back to Flex's projects...

    Thank you for posting this! any chance you can re upload these photos?

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