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I don't know what the release schedule is for this movie worldwide, but here in the states a movie will be released next week called "I Love You Man" starring Paul Rudd and Jason Segel. It is a Judd Apatow movie. Judd directed Knocked Up and The 40 Year Old Virgin, etc. Jason Segel is the guy who showed his manhood in Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Rudd has been in a ton of movies.

Anyway in this movie they are apparently huge Rush fans and they cover Limelight and their version of it is on the soundtrack. I found it posted online already at a blog and thought that some Rush fans may want to listen. Please realize that this is a comedy movie however. The address to copy and paste and change the hxxp to http is:

hxxp://theplaylist.blogspot.com/2009/03/exclusive-jason-segel-and-paul-rudd.html

Too much free time?? Or too much time diverted from our employers' productivity rosters?

quiet! they are going to be on to me!

Just pretend you are Iceman instead! Don't do Goose though, we like having you around too much to lose you!

If you did do Goose we could say (in our best Meg Ryan voice):

Toadtorrent - Ya big Stud! Take me to bed or lose me forever!

(queue Kenny Loggins music)

Stephane -

I just sent you a PM on and idea.

The UPO does have a serial number on it, but I don't recall it right now.

The IWC 3717 I have on at this moment is the following:

3183293

WOW. Good deals.

Hmmmm...what are the odds the new ceramic IWC is going to go half price?

I would guess it to be really good after a while. Especially considering that thing appears to be the Yugo of watch replicas when it comes to the reliability department. I have seen too many movement complaints on that one to get warm and fuzzy about buying one.

Am I the only one who would never wear a watch branded 'Christ' ?

Still waiting for "God" to bring out that Divers model..

They don't need a divers model, they just have Moses part the sea and walk through. You never need get your watch wet.

Really though, it is good to see some of these tourbys get some exposure other than the 'net.

I bit, I will let you know how it turns out. I specifically asked Hont if this is the same watch and he confirmed it was the same one that was over $400.

This topic is so interesting but at the same time very hard to discuss; we are starting to breach on the area of 'value'. Value in itself is very difficult to discuss because of its variation of importance.

In essence, we should *really* only pay marginally over somethings cost. We are happy to do that with most groceries for example. Luxury items are different and value and its idea changes in each different persons mind.

RobbieG for example has written about this a number of times and is a large advocate of something is 'worth' what people are willing to pay for it. Others question this motive and feel that prices for certain items are unethically driven up based on hype and marketing. Beyond the price is the idea of the human factor, and our item attachment.

In short; I'm saying maybe in essense the simple, single fact that you are paying a large amount of money on something gives it its worth and is then romanticised by your mind. On the other hand, maybe not..

By definition a luxury item is one that is grossly overpriced. A diamond is a good example of something that is unethically expensive and yet millions of poor saps, I mean young gentlemen, fall for the commercials where they say "A Diamond is Forever" and they go take out a loan equal to the GDP of a small country for a ring with pressurized coal in it. I don't have a problem spending on a watch but had a hard time coughing up for a ring. All brand name products are purchased due to being romanticized by consumers in their own minds. My old man won't drink Coke at all, loves Pepsi. Mom used a detergent because her mom used it. My brother only uses certain motor oil because he had good luck with it, another way it is superior in his mind, etc.

I have that same problem, is there a support group?

I will start one. Hublot Haters World Wide.

No offense taken (I have a thick skin anyway & rarely take offense from respectful commentary).

I would encourage you to take this test - take a reconnaissance trip to your local AD & try on a few Rolex watches (do not worry about wasting the sales person's time, that is what they are there for - just do not tell them that you are comparing gens to reps ). Place the watches on your wrist, operate the bracelet clasps, wind the crowns & set the time. I think you will come away with a new appreciation of Rolex & a better understanding of the differences.

Glad to hear I did not upset you. And I won't argue with the clasp part, I have scars on my fingers from opening and closing some of the rep clasps on here. I suppose what I was getting at was meant to be closer to what By-Tor said about the clarity of the Clark crystal versus gen, etc.

In my experience; I've had even Non-WIS tell of the 'differences in the shininess of real rolex' vs fakes, but this word of mouth comparison is really nothing to go by I'm sure. It'd be easy for example to compare those horrid horrid, dull jubilee bracelets of old with even new polished rep ones.

Were they telling this in the presence of both, or were they repeating the marketing they had heard? Most people will repeat the marketing as fact even though they have no firsthand experience of it. Something about a Rolex and the number of fakes makes everyone an expert and I would assume what you stated above is another on of those stories everyone hears and likes to pass off as something they can tell the difference in.

Think of it like this, everyone likes to go to the magic show and say "I know how the magician did that, there is a hole in the floor!" and ruin the trick. A fake Rolex is no different. The name Rolex will forever be tied to quality but it will also forever be tied to fake watches. People don't like being fooled, they will spout off whatever BS necessary to appear smarter than the rest of the room.

It is not just the type of steel that differs, but also, at least in the case of bracelets, the gauge of the steel used. Rolex uses a slightly heavier gauge of metal which makes a quite discernible difference in the feel of their 'cheap' clasps, especially on vintage models.

Got it, also wanted you to know that I mean no disrespect in my post and I actually edited it to reflect that I am mostly ignorant of Rolex watches. I do feel like I know more about them than their average non WIS consumer who just goes into Tourneau and buys one because of the name.

I hope I did not offend you in any way, and part of my post stems from the fact that I used to work for a company that made, lets just say widgets. We made original equipment branded widgets and aftermarket branded widgets that were sold under different brands. Our customer's customer's would often times claim that they could tell the difference between Brand X widgets and Brand Y widgets even thought they were the exact same part, made from the exact same print, exact same bill of materials, etc. They really thought the OE branded widgets were better at a higher price.

Love to know the story of the Jeff Davis inscription

It says

"I did a swish and dip, the south will rise again. - Jeff Davis"

God, as they say, is in the details. And it is in those details that the differences between the very best reps & gen Rolex watches become apparent. The fit-&-finish of a genuine Rolex is several notches above a WM9 or anything similar. Real white gold bezels sparkle & glisten in a way that polished steel cannot match, no matter how well you polish or oil it. Genuine Twinlock & Triplock crowns/tubes have a smooth, quality feel that aftermarket parts cannot provide. Genuine crystals have a shimmer that few aftermarket crystals can match. Etc, etc. In my opinion, the sum of the gen parts adds up to a whole that no commercially made rep will ever match.

I find some of that hard to believe. I agree that the fit and finish are off, but materials are materials for the most part. My bracelet does not care if it was machined on a CNC in Switzerland or in China as long as the same materials were used. Every gen Rolex I ever felt was, to me, cheap feeling. I imagine most people would pick a UPO over a gen Rolex in a test of "Which one is Real"

EDITED TO ADD:

My post was not for just Rolex, but all brands. Pehaps more for other brands than Rolex as the steel is not 100 percent identical in this case. I should also add however, that I never met anyone who owned a gen Rolex who knew the first thing about it, so many of these details are a moot point to owners. They bought it because it says Rolex and has the crown.

A lot has been written about the 904 steel. It has higher corrosion resistance, and as the metal is a bit harder it doesn't scratch as easily.

Corrosion resistance is pretty much meaningless on a wrist watch. How many rusty old diver watches you have ever seen?

PS: Moved this thread to the correct section.

I knew about the corrosion resistance part, I meant the price. To hear Rolex tell it, it costs a good deal more.

The visual difference between properly treated & polished rep bracelet and gen 904 steel is minimal.

What is the proper way to treat one of these? I ask because I have a WM9 coming eventually.

The only meaningful advantage of the 904 steel is in the marketing department. It probably costs a few dollars more (for a ton).

I read this and realized that I can actually find out the different in this for you. I have a friend who is a WIS and works in engineering of metal products. I will find this out and post what I hear.

This is true, still.. - I'd love to meet a WIS who is allergic to Rolex :D Oh the irony.

I am allergic to Hublot Big Bangs, they make me throw up in my mouth a little.

I think they affect their owners too as they seem to suffer from assholeitis.

I found it, the place I read about the poor reliability of the 2892 clone is in the Omega guide on this very forum. Check under the Aqua Terra section.

A little off topic, I was thinking about this the other day.. Since Rolex are made of 904L steel with a higher nickel content by which some people are actually allergic. Surely these people are like natural born rep spotters?

A real Rolex would end up giving them a skin rash, a fake would not as its made of 316.. ! Suppose it depends how quickly this rash comes about

They would probably call the fake the real one and the real one fake because the real one would be made from "crap metal" that irritates their skin! Kind of like the crappy brass watches with the plating that came off and made your skin green from a few years back!

By-Tor is right, the "common myth" problems are the ones that are fixed first. If you only know to look for "X" and the general population only knows to look for "X" then the factory will fix "X" and leave A, B, and C wrong as it does not really matter since no one knows to look for them.

This thread is so old I took it out drinking last month. We had a good time.

Any help?

I thought you agreed to stay away for now, what do you still need help with? Are you somehow still drawn to this site? Do you need help blocking it on your computer or something?

Quick tell on "most" Rolex reps? - The god damn ticking second hand! A vast majority of reps sold (hence the most) are the $10 Chinatown Canal street Times Square specials, with quartz movements. Probably a thousand of those are sold per every one Noobmariner.

I think the screw problem is that there is one loose in your head.

On the inside rim of the case were also inscribed the words............"He's behind you!"

That was a bad shot.....I mean it was a good shot, um, by a bad guy, and it was bad that he died. What I meant to say is that joke was in poor taste, I loved it!