sanro

I have used both Polywatch and CapeCod. Both work fine, but CapeCod works faster so that is the one I use now.

Probably, however, CapeCod is a little more "harsh" on the plexi so I would imagine it wears it more than the more subtle Polywatch.

Results are similarly good, though.

Impressive review, Lanikai!! Thank you!!

Smartass is not swearword. [censored] is! You better watch your tone before commenting on my signature. Because it clearly displays the amount of time and effort I stick into this community, which can't be said about you! So please be wise and reframe your comments before I report your ass!

Well, but I do see that you edited it...

My dear Rolexman, judging by the tone of your second and third post in this thread I cannot be surprised of the first one. Education is something perfectly compatible with dedicating time and effort into this and into any other community. I suggest you learn some. Will you report this request as "offensive"?

Don't be a smartass! I didn't say he had to post in correct English. He initially posted in only Spanish and added the English translation afterwards.

Rule# 10 of our forum rules:

[10] - All publicly displayed messages are limited to the English language. This includes posts, titles, signatures, and any attachments or other forms of public display.

Yep, I've read them. I see there are also some rules which make refference to the use of insults or swearwords like "smartass"...

I would still edit your signature, though. For Shakespeare's sake.

Please stick to our forum language: English!

Rolexman, if you are going to be so strict about preserving the English language for the Forum you should first edit the quote from Narikaa you have as your signature. It is not proper English. ("easily" instead of "easy")

I don't know where it says that the Forum language can only be English, by the way.

Amigo: no s

None?! There has to be SOMETHING in Beijing...

I have to travel to Beijing on Friday... Any collector worth visiting there or are they all in Hong Kong? Any help or indications will be highly appreciated.

I like this watch as well and was thinking about it. Be forewarned that once you buy it you own it for life or are at risk for a loss when you go to sell. They listed at $12-13k. Now they are offered at $7-8k and no one is buying them at that price. It is just one of those original movement brands that gets no respect in the secondary market - ala GP, Jaeger and Chopard. There are a number of watches that I really like but I don't dare buy them as I tend to sell gens when I am bored of them.

He should therefore buy it in the second-hand market...

mmm...the first version did not have any serial numbers at all...

I hadn't noticed about the dial: I think I just assumed it HAD to be anthracite, but on a second look it seems pretty obvious it isn't. That, or DSN is a lousy photographer (like me!! )

I notice that Davidsen has posted on April 25th his "NEW" 89 GMT... He seems to have solved the skinny minutes hand and the backcase numbers problem...

Is it now "perfect" or has he messed up with something else I am not able to notice? I feel tempted...

Genial, Manuel! Thanks for sharing! It nearly feels as if I was there too...(nearly...)

You are an Artist, Marco! You enjoy your work and your projects so much that you make me feel as if they were mine too! Congratulations

My evaluation is based on my personal good experience with both the ST-2530 I have, and my almost-perfect-but-not-perfect experience with the 2892. Nothing important, but I discovered that I move my left arm so little that in order to keep the 2892 running I have to shake the watch by hand every other day or so.

Hey, Marco, don't complain!! The fact that both you and I have problems with the power reserve of the 2892 because we do not shake our hands enough...speaks very highly of our wives!!

Corgi, it is dark here already so this is the best I can get under the kitchen's light...

You are right: there are no seconds. Patek argues that since the chronograph is based on a "wheel of pillars" (?? sorry, it is a direct translation from Spanish) it barely uses power reserve. So you might as well leave the chrono working to supply the seconds hand... Odd explanation, though.

The dial for the chrono is very innovative, I think. Both the hours and the minutes run in the same counter at six. At first I thought it would be impossible to read the times, but once you get used to understand that a full round is 30min it becomes easy.

Here are the few lousy photos I managed to get now. However, you can see here two phenomenal photos (http://www.mundopanerai.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2983) as well as the full story (in Spanish) of the 5980.

I was waiting for my brother in law (the-one-who-knows-how-to-take-good-photos) to come around my home and take some pictures of this beauty. But we don't get much family time these days and I have had this watch fully modded for over a month now... So I decided to try myself with my son's camera. The results are lousy...too many reflections...but I still feel they are worthy of being posted if just to praise the good work done on the watch.

This is my 27A (River's version, with ETA 2893 mov) with Lello's datewheel and Sssurfer's cyclops. Everything arranged by Sssurfer.

I have to say that aside from the sheer pleasure of having this beautifully nearly-perfect 27A, it was definitely better to come across these two gentlemen. Suffice to say that Lello sent the datewheel to Marco even before I had paid him (I told him it would take me a week to pay him because I had ran out of paypal-funds for the month). And Marco, well, not only an expert in PAMs, but a wonderful person and, by now, a friend. Thanks again, Marco.

And thanks to RWG for allowing me to meet these wonderful people...and to get these beautiful watches!

Ooops, I am beginning to feel as if I should not have come out of the closet... Ok, I will give you guys the full story.

On the last week of January, last Saturday of January, actually, I went out to buy a present for my wife (her birthday is on Feb 3rd) so eventually I stepped into this well know jewellery & AD in Madrid and bought her a (modest but nice) wrist band. While the lady at the shop was wrapping up my wife's present I told her: "you know what? You are also going to do me a favour. I see you are AD for Patek so I would like you to put me down for a Nautilus Chrono. I have heard the waiting list goes up to five years, so I will start saving today and by then who knows, I will make my decision if it ever arrives!"

She looked at me, kind of serious or even misterious look and she says "I think I've got one upstairs". "No, young lady, then you have not understood the watch I am telling you about. This watch has a waiting list (at least in Spain) of up to five years, and it is not even clear there will ever be enough of them coming to Spain to satisfy the current list!", i told her with self-sufficience.

"Oh! But of course, sir! The watch was ordered by a client, but apparently he does not want it anymore so we have to run through the rest of the waiting list. I doubt none of the other three clients in the list will reject it, but you never know. If you want, I can put you down too." I started to sweat and turn red, and asked "can you remind me of the price of this beauty? 24k? I thought so, he, he... well, thank you but I cannot really afford that right now...please do as I told you and maybe in five years...who knows...

When I got home I began (or rather, did it again) researching, and I realised buying a 5980 for the AD's price was a privilege... On the grey market they sell for twice that much... Mmmmm... Will I regret passing on this one for the rest of my life?? And, anyway, it is impossible that the other three guys on the waiting list will pass on the watch as well. So, what harm could it do if i signed up just in case?

On Monday, when I get to the office I call Human Resources. I had never before asked for a personal loan from the bank (i work in a bank, btw) but the conditions for employees are very good. So I prepared the ground, just in case, and I found out that despite high interest rates in Europe, with practically no interest from the bank as long as the amount was small (I mean, the 5980 is expensive, but it is no mortgage, right?) I could afford borrowing 15k. The other 9k i had in a savings account.

Then I called the lady at the AD. I promised her everything. If I got the watch I would buy everything at that AD for the rest of my life. Everything, from watches, presents...to my groceries and my underwear!!

And the miracle happened. The first two clients rejected the watch (I guess there are more people like me who sign up without being sure if they will be able to afford it) and the third one...accepted. So the AD even signed and stamped the warranty on his name (an habitual client) but as he arrived to pick the watch up...he changed his mind. This guy was surely loaded (not that I am homeless, but not as loaded as you might have implied) and there and then, on the spot, he decided to buy an even more expensive watch...leaving the 5980 fall gently into my hands... (BTW, I had the warranty changed into my name later, of course...for the price who wouldn't).

On Tuesday I formalized the loan. I also emailed urgently several people whom I had committed expenses with, including several reps from Puretime (sorry, Angus, I told you I had an immediate financial restraint, but I never gave you much detail!) cancelling the purchases. Only three months before I had purchased a beauty from River (i will post photos of that as well) and had it modded by a good friend at the forum, and it had already been enough expending in reps for a while... I made a plan to cut down on other expenses too... AND ON WEDNESDAY I PICKED UP MY 5980!!

I have paid only two installments of the loan so far (a 2 year loan, if you want more details) and...it is funny, I have never felt so happy repaying a loan. When I see the statement from the bank I just need to look at my PP...and I just know I did the right thing. Because if something goes wrong, if I urgently needed cash, I know I will make an immediate gain selling the watch back!

I hope I did not bore you. I feel the story is fascinating. At least, I lived it like that.

And I hope you don't mark me as "a strange animal" in the forum. I enjoy it too much here. I think my "forum status" is "beginning to like it here". That is because I don't post much. But my inner status is "I love you people!!" I really do.

Rgds.

oh my god

you can't be serious.... that's a $35,000 watch and one of the rarest and most complex Patek available now.

If you really do own that then what the hell are you doing here with us replica people???

Because after buying that one I can now only afford replicas for the rest of my life!

I like watches too much. Only a few can be gens...and I enjoy some reps nearly as much. Actually, I enjoy some reps more than some gens... I hope you won't expell me from the forum for coming out of the closet!

Is this Bruce you are talking about the Bruce at watches24seven.com? What do you mean by "generous trades"? Does he accept trade ins? He's got in his web a 91 with metal bracelet which does not let me sleep...but still owing money on my Nautilus I should not even look into it. Unless i could trade something for it, of course...

Ok, I'll come out of the closet too... This one comes with a fascinating story about luck, shrewdness...and indebtment...

In that case I am afraid the "challenger" is going to have a rough ride and a short life in the forum...

You may see bigger photos if you click on the original thread...

http://www.relojes-especiales.com/foros/sh...ead.php?t=29068

The issue is hot: a 3000-plus forum senior member posts these photos and is called out by a newcomer... This is just about the biggest gen watch forum in Spain.

Hope someone can help! I am just curious myself, but not expert enough to tell...

Guys, help! I am no expert posting photos, but from whatever I manage to post here could anyone give me an opinion about whether this is a gen or a fake? THX!!

Some time ago, by pretty hijacking a different thread, I dared to say that the movement in the PAM 090/124/222 rep, the Seagull ST (or TY) 2530, was as good as the ETA 2892-A2 that powers the PAM 027/028 (both gens and reps).

That statement got some criticisms, mainly based on two considerations:

1. The Zigmeister always appreciated the 2892-A2.

2. The ST 2530 has no date set position of the crown, so it lacks one function in comparison with the 2892-A2.

As a owner and an extensive wearer of both a 028, a 090, and a quasi-124, I have to confirm what I said.

1. The 2530 is superior to the 2892-A2 in its auto-winding easiness. I have to manually wind the 2892 any 2-3 days in order to keep it running on my wrist, while I get the 2530 authomatically fully wound in just a few hours I wear it.

2. The 2530 does not lack the quick-date-set function, it just has it on a separate pusher rather than on a crown position. Btw, this reduces the stress on the crown, crown guard, and stem ensemble (naturally disregarding the accuracy with the gen).

3. The additional lens on the 2530's date window is even better than the 2892's.

4. Smoothness and precision are at par on both.

... So, flame on, if you want.

He, he...it is comforting to see I am not the only one who has to wind manually his 2892-A2 every now and then (the PAM27A you well know ).

Still waiting to get someone who knows how to macro-shot your work of art...

If indeed we can commission a rep PAM that you can confidently wear anywhere, I'm definitely in!

I guess the next step is to 1.) find a trustworthy dealer who'll get the ball rolling 2.) get a list of those interested and collect the deposits.

So I'll start the list here....

Those who are interested in putting a 50% deposit for a PAM 001 T dial

1. Ztech

2. PAMman 6+

3. Sanro

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Please repost and add your name. You all know what to do.

DISCLAIMER!

Once you decide to get on the list and put down your deposit, there is no turning back. If you do, you loose your deposit.

Two for me, Sir.