Around 3 or 4 months ago, we started getting watches with asian 2836-2 movements. At first they seemed like a good cheaper alternative to the swiss 2836-2. All of a sudden, around four months later, we are starting to get returns for service or replacement. THIS IS NOT GOOD. I have several swiss eta 2836-2 in watches I built in 1995, IM NOT KIDDING, they have never been touched to this day. I realize the asian eta looks nearly the same as a swiss, at half the price, but early results indicate, 'YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR' SWISS 2836-2 IS CHEAP AT TWICE THE PRICE. Just a note on the asian 2836 rotor, it says TWENY FIVE JEWELS not TWENTY. LOL