tokeimaster Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Hello, everybody. I already made the topic about this scam website, i just took text from the one of the e-mails of unsatisfied customers. Now i want open truth to everybody. Let me begin my story. I am a student, currently study in Beijing, capital Of China, English is not my native language, but Chinese and English are my major. In the beginning of this year one friend from university asked me do i want to work in good company, i said why not and came to the place. The story begins. Actually swwatch.com is not a company at all. There are огые three people in it, all of them are Russians. The director is 26 years old fat russian guy, who knows a lot about internet, websites, promotion and etc. He manages all questions with website. As i know many of such websites are owned by chinese or russians. Another guy is also 26 year old photographer, he takes pictures of new models, and write descriptions by using the online translator. And the last one is translator for emails, like i was, this person just translates letters from qustomers and answer them. Their phone numbers, which you can find at website, are bought in Skype, so when somebody thinks they have US number and try to call them, in real he will call just to their Skype, line always will be busy, or nobody will answer. Support chat is now also always off, nobody is working in it now. They work with GSPAY.com payment system. GSPAY accepts high-risk payments. Everything is very easy, people pay for orders with credit cards, when amount reaches 4000 usd, the website owner just take money from his account, and instead to send important orders first, just spend money like he wants, share money with other staff, pay rent for big luxury two-floor apartament, nice life and etc. And he send few orders only when people begin to demand it every day, by sending a lot of e-mails every day. I also was surprised, why people just dont make chargeback, and wait and wait for few months. This guy told me, that usually people dont want to have problems with credit cards history and prefer to wait till last. Sure, sometimes they make chargebacks, but amount of them is not big. Also GSPAY will make everything that customers will not make chargeback. Dont need to say that people, which send payments by Western Union never get their orders. I translated mails for him, and i saw how many people write so many negative things, but this guy is not worry, he knows that he is in China, and not FBI, not police, nobody will get him. And this is true, in China local police is absolutely loyal to such things. Ofcourse they send some orders, i saw they send about 50% of orders usually. They go to local city markets, such as Silk street (very famous market place in Beijing) or to Yabaolu (so called russian market), where they have some chinese sellers, which sell fakes to them for reduced prices, usually for 50-60 usd. The usual price at website is 180-200 usd. Insted of Swiss replica people in 80% will recieve a usual chinese fake. When i saw, how much people are scammed by them, i was so disgusted, so just quit. If you will type - www.swwatch.com in any search engine, you can easily find stories from scammed people. Swwatch.com is one site in scam chain, this guy also owns www.replica-vertu.com, sells usual chinese Vertu fakes, and claim that phones are made in Hungary. Also he manages www.leatherproject.com - replica bags website, but i dont know too much about it, i was quit in this time. If this history will help people to know the truth about some top websites, i will feel that now i am not related to scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dropbear2008 Posted November 27, 2009 Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 Thanks for this inside info. Russians in China are the worsed of their kind. Used to work in San Li Tun and had a look around Ya Bao Lu a few times, the way most Russians behaved was just a nightmare. Sad thing is with a little bit of effort he could probably manage to get a tidy profit without scamming other people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokeimaster Posted November 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2009 There are hundreds of scammed customers around all world. Many people wait their watches for more than 6 months, just dont want to worse their credit card history and make refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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